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[Call to Order - Determine if a Quorum is Present]
THINK EVERYONE'S HERE.SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
PRESENT, UH, FOR CITY COUNCIL.
WE'LL DETERMINE IF A QUORUM IS MADE WITH MDD.
IF EVERYONE CAN STAND FOR THE INVOCATION OF THE JUDGE.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD JUST CONTINUE TO BLESS EACH OF US THANKFUL FOR THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AUBREY IN THE DIFFERENT CAPACITIES.
I PRAY FOR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE FOR, UH, FOR THE COLLABORATION THAT WE HAVE HERE THIS EVENING.
KEEP US SAFE AS WE TRAVEL HOME BACK TO OUR INDIVIDUAL SPACES, AND IN EVERYTHING WE GIVE YOUR NAME, PRAISE AND GLORY.
I OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, REPUBLIC ONE NATION, NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG TO BE TEXAS.
[Community Announcements]
UM, COMMUNITY ANNOUNCEMENTS.ANYBODY HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS THEY NEED TO MAKE? MAYOR COUNCIL, I WANTED TO EXTEND AN INVITATION ON BEHALF OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
WE HAVE GOT THE FIRST RESPONDERS OR THE WIND RIDGE FIRST RESPONDERS GRAND OPENING FEBRUARY 18TH AT ONE 30.
WE'D LOVE IF YOU GUYS COULD JOIN.
UM, THE LOCATION IS GONNA BE 3 0 6 4 WINDRIDGE BOULEVARD, AUBREY, TEXAS 7 6 2 2 7 AT ONE 30.
WHAT IS IT AGAIN? IT'S THE GRAND OPENING OF THE WINDRIDGE FIRST RESPONDERS PARK, DOG PARK AT 1:30 PM DOG PARK.
WHAT IS THE ADDRESS OVER THERE? 3 0 6 4 WIND RIDGE BOULEVARD.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT? OKAY, MD SOUNDS GOOD.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMUNITY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE MDD? WE HAVE THE CHAMBER LUNCHEON COMING UP, AND THEN WE ALSO ALSO HAVE THE REY EDUCATION FOUNDATION GALA COMING UP IN MARCH 21ST.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME SPONSOR, IF YOU HAVE ANY DONATIONS, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE 'EM.
[Additional Item]
UM, MOVING ON.SO THE FIRST ITEM ON, ON OUR AGENDA IS TO APPROVE MINUTES OF JANUARY 29TH, 2026 MEETING.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JANUARY.
YOU HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 1, 2, 3, 5.
NEXT, CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON THE RESO RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY AT 500 SOUTH MAIN STREET FOR $205,000 PLUS FEES AND CLOSING COSTS.
COUNSEL, MDDI JUST WANT TO READ THE, UH, INFORMATION FOR YOU REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION.
IF YOU'LL PUT THE RESOLUTION UP, PLEASE.
YOU DID RECEIVE THIS, UM, YESTERDAY, BUT THIS, UM, AUBREY MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS WILL CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN AUBREY, TEXAS TO PROMOTE AND DEVELOP NEW AND EXPANDED BUSINESS ENTERPRISES IN THE CITY.
THE DISTRICT INTENDS TO USE THE FUNDS ON HAND TO COMPLETE THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY FOR $205,000 PLUS FEES AND CLOSING COSTS.
SO THE RESOLUTION IS IN FRONT OF YOU AND EXPLAINS THE PURPOSE.
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ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY AT 500 SOUTH MAIN STREET FOR $205,000 PLUS FEES AND CLOSING COSTS? SO, MOTION BY AARON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT.
FIVE TO ZERO OR RESOLUTION PASSES.
[City Council Item]
I HAVE, UH, CITY COUNCIL ITEM.WE HAVE A FIRST READING REGARDING A RESOLUTION FOR THE MDD PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY OF 500 SOUTH MAIN STREET FOR $205,000 PLUS ANY RELATED FEES UPON CITY ACQUISITION.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE FIRST READING.
UM, THE AUBREY MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS WILL CONSIDER CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN AUBREY, TEXAS TO PROMOTE AND DEVELOP NEW AND EXPANDED BUSINESS ENTERPRISES IN THE CITY.
THE DISTRICT INTENDS TO USE FUNDS ON HAND TO COMPLETE THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY FOR 205,000 PLUS FEES AND CLOSING COSTS.
[Joint Workshop Items]
WILL RE WE WILL CONVENE INTO THE WORKSHOP AT 6 0 7.UH, THE WORKSHOP ITEM IS DISCUSSED, FUTURE GROWTH FUNDING, BUDGET INITIATIVES, OPERATIONS PROJECTS AND STRATEGIC PLANS.
NOT LIMITED TO, BUT INCLUDING PERMISSIBLE MDD EXPENDITURES, ACTIVITIES AND APPROVAL PROCESS FOR GRANTS AND OTHER MAJOR BUDGETED PROJECTS.
DISCUSS ANY RECOMMENDED BYLAW REVISIONS.
UPDATES ON MDD PROJECTS FOR 2026, INCLUDING DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT, FEASIBILITY STUDY MDD PROPERTIES AND OTHER PROGRAMS AND PRIORITIES AND FUTURE GOALS FOR THE MDD.
THERE'S A LOT TO COVER OVER THAT
WE DISCUSSED FUTURE GROWTH, FUNDING, BUDGET, ALL THAT.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ON MY END? ANYBODY WANNA TALK ABOUT THE START? WE WANNA START WITH, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING? CITY COUNCIL, IS EVERYBODY ON THE CITY COUNCIL AWARE OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND ITS SCOPE THAT WE'VE JUST COMMISSIONED AWARE OF THE, THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR, UM, THE FEASIBILITY OF A, UH, HOTEL PROPERTY AS WELL AS AN INDOOR, UM, SPORTS FACILITY? IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
IS THAT JUST LIKE FOR AMATEUR SPORTS ONLY OR FOR JUST PUBLIC USE, OR IS ENCOMPASSING ALL OF THAT? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT COULD BE ANY AND ALL.
UM, IT'S MOSTLY THE FOUNDATION FOR, IT'S GONNA LOOK AT DEMOGRAPHICS AND LAND AVAILABILITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU CAN USE AS THE FOUNDATION TO DECIDE WHICH OF THE NEXT THINGS YOU WANT OR DON'T WANT.
AND WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO, UM, THE GENTLEMAN FROM LEGENDS, WHAT I LIKED ABOUT IT WAS, IT'S, IT'S NOT A, THIS IS FEASIBLE OR NOT FEASIBLE.
IT BASICALLY IS WHAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE FEASIBLE.
SO, I MEAN, IT MAY BE SOMETHING TINY OR IT MAY BE SOMETHING BIG OR SOME, BUT IT'S, IT SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST SOME FOUNDATION OF IF YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD, THIS WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION AND IT WOULDN'T BE, DON'T DO ANYTHING.
SO AT LEAST THAT'S OUR WHOLE, SO IT'S NOT GO NO GO FEASIBILITY STUDY.
IT'S MORE OF A, BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS HERE WOULD BE THE IDEAL APPLICATIONS IN YOUR ENVIRONMENT CURRENT.
AND IT MAY BE, I MEAN, IT WON'T, BUT HE COULD SAY ONE COURT, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND THEN THE HOTEL STUDY IS MORE ABOUT MAYBE WHAT KIND OF SIZE OF A HOTEL OR MULTIPLE HOTELS WOULD BE.
UM, BUT IT'S ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DEMOGRAPHIC, THE, THE DEMOGRAPHIC DATA AND SOME OF THE OTHER DATA THE MDD COULD USE TO HELP WORK WITH LIKE THE WEDDING VENUES OR, UM, ANY B AND BS THAT WE HAVE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN USE THAT AS THE FOUNDATION TO EITHER RECRUIT MORE OF THAT OR REACH OUT TO THE PEOPLE AND THAT ALREADY HAVE THEM AND SAY, YOU KNOW, HERE'S SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE DEMOGRAPHICALLY THAT YOU MIGHT FIND USEFUL.
SO PLUS, PLUS YOU GUYS CAN USE IT.
WE TALKED ABOUT, WELL YOU, WE ALREADY ARE STARTING TO DO AN OUTDOOR FACILITY MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, ARE WE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE WITHOUT THIS? AND, AND THE SCOPE OF THE STUDY ISN'T GONNA BE SPECIFIC ENOUGH TO NEGATE ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT IT SHOULD AUGMENT AS YOU GET FARTHER ALONG IN THE PROJECT IF YOU NEED MODIFICATIONS OR IT, IT CAN, IT CAN HELP DIRECT ANYTHING FACILITY INDOOR AND OUT.
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WILL BE MORE ON, UH, INDOOR.'CAUSE Y'ALL ARE ALREADY DOING THE OUTDOOR, SO I MEAN, AND THERE'S A NEED FOR BOTH, BUT THEY'RE GONNA TELL US IF THERE'S A NEED FOR BOTH.
THERE MAY NOT BE WE'RE IT'S GONNA, THAT'S KIND OF THE RIGHT PURPOSE OF IT AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DIRECTION WE CAN GO OR THERE IS A NEED.
AND THEN WE DID ADD ON, IF I'M CORRECT, WE DID ADD ON THE POSSIBILITY IN THE FUTURE THAT IF WE DO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD ON SOMETHING, THAT WE HAVE THAT BASE, UM, THAT THE, THE CONSULTANTS WILL THEN STEP IN AND SAY, OKAY, YOU'VE, I'M JUST, THIS IS ALL THEORETICAL.
YOU KNOW, YOU'VE DECIDED ON A COURT THAT'S GONNA HAVE X NUMBER OF BASKETBALL COURTS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS OR WHATEVER.
WE WILL NOW HELP YOU GO OUT AND RECRUIT WHOEVER IT WOULD BE.
THAT WOULD BE THE LIKELY PERSON THAT WOULD WANNA BUILD THAT THING OR USE THAT THING OR WHATEVER.
SO, SO IT'S KIND OF A MULTI-LAYER THING.
THE STUDY IS THE STUDY, BUT IF WE DO FIND THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO RETAIN THEM TO DO THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS A MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED NEGOTIATING PLANNING THING, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
SO I, I THINK IT'S A REALLY, AND ESPECIALLY THE SCOPE OF IT FOR THE PRICE TO ME, WAS REALLY GOOD
'CAUSE THESE GUYS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, THESE GUYS ARE THE LEGEND.
IT'S, IT'S THE LEGENDS GROUP AND THEY'RE AFFILIATED WITH THE COWBOYS AND THE YANKEES.
SO THEY'RE WELL FAMILIAR WITH DALLAS AND FORT WORTH AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE BUILDINGS AND COLLEGES AND I MEAN, THEY, THEY DO WORK ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT IT'S A SUBSIDIARY OF, OF THEM.
SO THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH AROUND HERE.
AND THIS MAY BE IN THE INFORMATION, BUT REFRESH MY MEMORY, IS THERE A, AN EXPECTED COMPLETION DATE ON THAT OR, UH, THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS? UM, WE WILL START EARLY MARCH AND WE SHOULD, IT SHOULD TAKE MAX 16 WEEKS.
SO JULY WE MAY HAVE A REPORT, A STUDY BACK AND A REPORT PRESENTATION.
BUT THEY'LL BE COMING UP IF, IF I CAN CONFIRM IT ALL, THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH TO COME HERE AND WE'LL HAVE STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS AND I'LL BE GETTING IN TOUCH WITH ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO BE A PART OF THOSE INTERVIEWS.
UM, Y'ALL, OR IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANNA BE A PART OF THOSE STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS, LET ME KNOW AFTERWARDS AND I'LL BE SURE WE GET YOU IN ONE OF THOSE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS.
YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA BE HERE FOR TWO DAYS.
I THINK IT COULD BE THREE DAYS DEPENDING ON WHAT WE CAN GET SCHEDULED.
WELL, THE GOAL OF THIS STUDY IS TO BASICALLY COMPILE THE DATA TO TRY TO ELICIT A PRIVATE INVESTOR FOR A PRIVATE INDOOR FACILITY, NOT A PUBLICLY FUNDED INDOOR FACILITY.
UM, I THINK THAT THE SCOPE COULD BE ANYTHING FROM A HUNDRED PERCENT PRIVATE TO A PUBLIC PRIVATE.
UM, AND IT'S ALSO, AGAIN, I'M JUST, I'M USING MY UNDERSTANDING TO KIND OF HEDGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S A, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WILL LOOK AT KIND OF ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND WHAT WOULD BE THE, THE MOST, BECAUSE IF, IF THEY CAME UP AND SAID, OH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE A $200 MILLION FACILITY.
WELL, THE CITY CAN'T FUND THAT AT THIS POINT.
SO, SO THEY, THEY DO WANT, THEY DO ACKNOWLEDGE ON PART OF THE FEASIBILITY IS CAN YOU GET THIS THING FUNDED? DO YOU HAVE ANY LAND? DO YOU NEED HOW MANY ACRES? YOU KNOW, SO, SO THEIR CONCLUSION WILL BE THIS IS AT A MINIMUM, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO.
UM, AS OPPOSED TO YEAH, YOU JUST CAN'T, WE DECIDED THAT YOU DON'T NEED A $50 MILLION FACILITY, SO DON'T DO ANYTHING.
I MEAN, THEY MAY COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND THEY WILL GIVE OPTIONS ABOUT WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC, PRIVATE, ALL PRIVATE.
THE OPTIONS WOULD BE, DO YOU HAVE LAND? DO THEY WANT LAND? DOES SOMEBODY HAVE LAND? UH, YOU KNOW, OH, WE CAN, WE WILL GO FIND SOMEBODY THAT HAS LAND.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE NEXT STEP.
ONCE THEY FIGURE OUT THE SCOPE, THEY COULD HELP US FIGURE OUT THE HOW.
THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE ADD-ON, BUT IT'S THERE.
WELL, I'M WONDERING IF WE WOULD'VE HAD ROOM FOR THAT ON THE, THE LAND THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUTDOOR, YOU THINK WOULD'VE ROOM OVER THERE? UM, NO, NO, NO.
BUT ONE THING HE DISCUSSED WITH US IS THAT THEY'LL LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE BUILDING THAT OUTDOOR SPORTS COMPLEX AND AREAS AROUND IT.
AND WHERE WE COULD CROSS MARKET, CROSS, UH, DEVELOP, UM, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, BUT IT ALSO CAN REMEMBER THERE'S HOTEL PRODUCT IN THIS MARK.
IT'LL BE STUDIED WHETHER WHAT WE NEED FOR A HOTEL PRODUCT, IF, IF WE'RE, IF WE CAN ABSORB THAT, SUPPORT IT, THAT KIND OF THING.
WELL, WHO WILL THEY USE THE PARK MASTER PLAN BECAUSE THAT, THAT THE PARK MASTER PLAN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SECTIONS OF TOWN.
WE DON'T WANT TO PUT BOTH OF 'EM RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
THAT WOULD VALIDATE THE ENTIRE, I PROVIDED THAT WHEN WE DID THIS, UH, DISCUSSION FOR THE SCOPE OF SERVICES.
AND GAVE THEM OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AS WELL.
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THINK IT'S VERY HELPFUL THAT BOTH STRATEGIC PLANS ARE DONE, BECAUSE THEY WILL USE THAT AS THE BASE.IF THEY COME ON AND SAY, OH, YOU SHOULD PUT IT RIGHT HERE, AND YOU'RE LIKE, THAT'S GONNA BE APARTMENTS.
UM, BUT, BUT THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
AND WE'VE, WE HAD, I DON'T KNOW, HOUR LONG, HOUR AND A HALF LONG MEETING WITH, WITH THEM.
AND I'M, I'M REALLY CONFIDENT THAT THIS I AGREE, IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED THAT WE CAN USE.
AND THE HOTEL THING ALSO HELPS WITH THE OUTDOOR FACILITY TOO, BECAUSE THEY CAN SAY, HEY, WE NEED A MOTEL SIX, OR WE NEED A WHATEVER HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS, OR WE NEED A RITZ CARLTON, WHATEVER.
I MEAN, NOW THAT WE HAVE THE OUTDOOR FACILITY, THEY CAN ALSO SAY, OH, WELL NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS KIND OF TRAFFIC OR THIS KIND OF ATTENDANCE AND IT'S GONNA BE USED THIS MANY DAYS.
THIS WOULD HELP, YOU COULD PUT THIS HERE IF YOU COULD FIND SOMEPLACE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN STAY OVERNIGHT WHEN THEY DO A TOURNAMENT, WHATEVER, THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE SCOPE OF THE HOTEL.
SO I THINK DOING BOTH TOGETHER AFTER THE PLAN WAS DONE IS THE WAY TO DO THIS.
MEREDITH, FURTHER EXPOUND ON YOUR QUESTION THAT YOU HAD A MINUTE AGO.
I, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE CONSULTANTS WERE THAT, THAT NOBODY WILL BUILD A HOTEL AND THEY WON'T BUILD A SPORTS COMPLEX WITHOUT THIS STUDY.
IF WE APPROACH ANYBODY, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE A STUDY AND IT WILL TAKE THEM MONTHS TO DO IT.
FROM THE CONSULTANT'S POINT OF VIEW, IF THE MDD DOES THIS AND THEY HAVE IT ON THE SHELF AND YOU APPROACH SOMEONE WITH A HOTEL AND SAY, LOOK WHAT WE HAVE, THEY KNOW WE'RE SERIOUS.
THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM.
AND SO THAT WAS PART OF IT AS WELL, FROM THE CONSULTANTS.
THAT'S WHAT I GOT FROM THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
THEY KIND OF HELPED ANSWER ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND THEY SAY THE SHELF LIFE IS ABOUT AT LEAST FIVE YEARS FOR THE DATA.
AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOMEBODY COME TOUR THE AREA.
AND THAT WAS ONE THING THAT THEY ASKED.
THEY SAID, WELL, YOU NEED TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR AN ENDORSED FORCE COMPLEX BEFORE WE CAN EVEN GO FURTHER.
SO THAT'S WHERE THIS KIND OF LED INTO TOO.
SO THERE IS INTEREST HOTELS ALSO NEED 'EM FOR THE MEMBERS.
SO WHETHER OR NOT OUR STUDY WILL BE EXACTLY WHAT A LENDER NEEDS, BUT THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION AS WELL.
AND IT WAS, THEY IT WAS BUNDLED TOGETHER TOO, WHICH WAS NICE.
'CAUSE WE DID ASK THEM, SHOULD WE JUST DO ONE YEAH.
AND THEY POINTED OUT THAT YOU WOULD MAKE FEWER TRIPS TO DO THE INTERVIEWS WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS.
YOU REALLY NEED THE SECOND ONE.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU DECIDE THE FIRST, IF THE FIRST ONE SAYS YOU NEED SOMETHING, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THE SECOND ONE ANYWAY.
SO INSTEAD OF WAITING ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TO GET IT DONE, THEY CAN KIND OF DO 'EM SEMI CONCURRENT.
AND I THINK IT WAS CHEAPER TOO.
IT'S LIKE 30 OR 40 GRAND CHEAPER THE SAME TIME VERSUS IT WAS LIKE 30 OR $40,000 CHEAPER.
THAT'S WHY YOU GOT THE SMARTBOOK OUT.
UM, I HAVE ON MY NOTES DISCUSS, UM, THE GRANT APPROVAL PROCESS, MAYBE SHORT.
SO WE KIND OF RAN INTO SOME SITUATIONS WHERE, UM, THE PROCESS IS TAKING A LITTLE TOO LONG IT IN OUR, UM, MDD.
SO FOR INSTANCE, WHERE WE HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WE APPROVE IT, THEN THE COUNCIL APPROVES IT, AND IT CAN TAKE ABOUT 45 DAYS.
SO, UM, AND IT, IT SLOWS THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND COST WITH THE MONEY WHILE THEY WAIT.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MAYBE TALK ABOUT DOING, CHANGING IN THAT, UM, ONE OPTION IS FOR THE CITY TO DO A RESOLUTION THAT ALLOWS THE MDD TO APPROVE THE GRANTS UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT, MAYBE UP TO 30,000 MAX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? OR, UM, THE TOTAL ALLOTMENT FOR THE GRANTS AND THE PROGRAM ARE ALREADY APPROVED EACH YEAR WITH, WELL, WE ALREADY APPROVED THE, THE PROGRAM, UM, THE, THE GRANTS AND THE BUDGET EACH YEAR.
SO WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? YEAH, I, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T EXCEED YOUR BUDGET AMOUNT.
ONCE THAT CHANGES YOUR BUDGET AMOUNT, THEN WE GOTTA GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE BUDGET AMENDMENT PROCESS FOR SURE.
AND WE ALL APPROVE THE BUDGET ON THAT.
SO I MEAN, YOU'RE ALREADY APPROVING IT.
AND COULD WE APPROVE IN THE BUDGET, APPROVE IT AMOUNT GREATER THAN THE LIMIT JUST SO WE WE WILL NEVER HAVE THAT PROBLEM? WELL, WE, WE, WE HAVE TO ASSUME THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MORE THAN ONE APPLICANT, RIGHT? RIGHT.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ONE APPLICANT THAT USES YOUR ENTIRE, ENTIRE, WHOLE BUDGET.
AND YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BUDGET NUMBER.
SAY, SAY IT'S A, YOUR LIMIT'S 30, BUT YOU HAVE A BUDGET NUMBER OF 180,000.
NO, WHAT WERE YOU SAY, CHRISTINE, IF WE GO OVER A 30,000, IF Y'ALL MADE A GRANT THAT WAS OVER 30,000 AND WE, AND SAY IT WAS FOR 80,000, YEAH.
THAT WOULD GET INTO A PUBLIC PRIVATE AGREEMENT AND PARTNERSHIP THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A GRANT.
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WE WOULD BE CHANGING GEARS ANYWAY.WELL, I THINK IF YOU GO ABOVE THE APPROVED NUMBER AMOUNT, YOUR LIMIT ON THE GRANT, THEN IT'S, YOU GOTTA COME THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO WAIT.
BUT IF AS LONG AS IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GRANT, THEN I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH SHORTENING THAT PROCESS.
AND I THINK WE DID THAT WITH THE AMOUNT ANYWAY THAT WE ASSUMED IT WAS GONNA BE MULTIPLE MM-HMM
HOW ARE THE GRANTS DOING THIS YEAR? FACADE WHAT? UH, REHABILITATION SIGNS.
SO YOU'RE CURRENTLY SEEING ONE? YEAH, WE'VE HAD TWO.
I THINK YOU'RE CURRENTLY SEEING ONE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS THE GERMAN.
THE WHAT? NEXT TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
WITH ALL THAT STUFF GONE NOW, ALL THIS STUFF IS GONE ON ON SHERMAN DRIVE, UM, WHEN YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
AND THEN, UM, I THINK WE'VE HAD TWO SO FAR.
WELL, WELL, THAT WAS LAST YEAR, THE END OF ONE BUDGET YEAR.
SORRY, ANOTHER BEGAN OF THE OTHER.
YOU HAD THE CAR WASH RESTAURANT.
UM, THIS YEAR YOU HAD THE DEMOLITION, BUT WE HAVE HAD INQUIRIES ABOUT THE SIGN GRANTS.
UM, WE'VE HAD, I'VE GIVEN OUT A FEW APPLICATIONS.
I THINK A LOT OF IT'S JUST WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE MONEY IN THEIR BUDGET TO DO A NEW SIGN.
BUT OUR SIGN GRANT GIVES UP TO $10,000 MATCH, WHICH COVERS PRETTY GOOD AMOUNT OF A MARQUE SIGN.
UM, NOT A MARQUE SIGN, A MONUMENT SIGN.
I THINK FOR THE BUSINESS MAYOR, BEFORE YOU LEAVE THIS TOPIC, UH, INCREASING AND, AND STREAMLINING THAT PROCESS WOULD MEAN A BYLAWS CHANGE FOR THE MDD.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING TONIGHT IS THERE'S INTEREST IN MAKING A BYLAWS CHANGE THAT WOULD ALLOW THE MDD TO EXPEND FUNDS UP TO $30,000, WHICH IS THEIR GRANT LIMIT.
BEFORE COMING TO THE COUNCIL, I SPOKE WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THAT.
SHE SAID, THAT'S NOT A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS PUT INTO THE BYLAWS OF THE MDD AND WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE COUNSEL, THAT CAN BE CHANGED.
SO THAT'S WHAT, IF THAT'S THE WHAT I'M HEARING, THEN WE'LL BRING SOMETHING BACK TO YOU IN, IN SHORT ORDER.
UM, WHAT ELSE? ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? I MEAN, ONE OF OUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVES THAT WE SET, WAS IT LAST YEAR OR THE PRIOR YEAR, WAS PROPERTY ACQUISITION SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, CONCENTRATED EFFORT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND I CAN END CHRISTINE BECAUSE WE SET IT AS A HIGH PRIORITY.
AND I MEAN, SHE WENT TO WORK
UM, SO KIND OF LOOKING AT MAINTAINING THAT PROACTIVE NATURE.
UM, WE WANNA CONTINUE TO CONCENTRATE EFFORTS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, BUT IN ALIGNING WITH COUNCIL'S INITIATIVES AND OBJECTIVES, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT TUNNEL VISIONING, UH, TUNNEL VISIONING JUST IN THAT AREA.
SO IF THERE'S OTHER GEOGRAPHIC AREAS THAT YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO FOCUS ON, FIVE, 10 YEAR GROWTH, UM, IF YOU COULD BRING THOSE TO OUR ATTENTION, WE, WHEN APPROPRIATE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KIND OF EXPANDING THOSE EFFORTS.
WELL, I THINK IF SOMETHING POPS UP, I THINK WE, WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF THROWING THAT AT AND YOU GUYS ARE APPRECIATE, WE APPRECIATE THAT.
I MEAN, Y'ALL HAVE PROPERTIES NOW.
CAN Y'ALL KIND OF DISCUSS WHAT YOUR CURRENT PLANS MAY BE ON THE OLD AUTO PARTS STORE OR THE MOM SPACE? I KNOW THE OTHER ONE WE'RE, WE HAVEN'T HAVE CLOTHES ON IT YET, RIGHT.
UM, SO THE MOM'S BUILDING, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT, CHRISTINE, WITH THE DATES? AND THEN I'LL LET HOLLY TAKE OVER THAT.
SHE HAS, SHE DOES HAVE SOME UPDATES, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THROUGH THAT, ON, ON THE PROJECTS.
UM, SO REGARDING THE MOM'S BUILDING, UM, WE STILL HAVE A TENANT, RFP UP.
WE EXTENDED THAT DEADLINE TO MARCH 2ND.
WE'VE HAD A FEW CALLS, BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY WHAT, UM, IS IN THE RFP.
BUT WE'VE GOT LEADS FOR NEW BUSINESSES.
WE COULD HAVE IN AUBREY IN OTHER LOCATIONS,
SO I'M TELLING THEM, UM, THEN PARK HILL HAS AN RFP FOR A GENERAL CONTRACTOR READY.
WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR SOME REVIEW ON THAT.
ONCE THAT'S REVIEWED, WE WILL POST THAT AND START GETTING THAT FACADE REPAIRED, GET THE WINDOWS REPLACED, AND SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES ON THE OUTSIDE.
FIXED AND TEAR DOWN SOME INSIDE.
UM, THE GOOD THING IS IF WE DO THAT WITH A TENANT, IT'S GOING TO HELP, LIKE IF WE FIND A TENANT OR GET AN AGREEMENT GOING, THEY CAN KIND OF SIMULTANEOUSLY DO SOME WORK.
UM, THE, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE HAVE PURCHASED, UH, THE AUTO, WE DEMOLISH THE AUTO PARTS STORE.
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IS A QUESTION THAT WE PROB WE HAVEN'T DEMOLISHED.WELL, WE'RE GOING TO THANK YOU.
IN MY MIND,
IN MY MIND IT'S DEMOLISHED BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY MOVED ON TO THE NEXT THING.
WELL, THEY DID GET THE ELECTRICAL METER TAKEN OFF.
I DO HAVE THAT, UH, CONFIRMED.
UM, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE DEMOLISHING THAT WE'VE GOT BIDS OUT GETTING SLOWLY BACK TO ME.
IT'S A, UM, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS ON THAT.
AND I'LL LET HOLLY TAKE OVER THAT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE THREE PROPERTIES IN DOWNTOWN CURRENTLY, AND THEN WE HAVE THE AUTO PARTS STORE.
SO LOTS OF GOALS, BUT WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
SO ON THE, THE 3 77 THAT BUILDING, WHAT ARE YOUR PRIORITIES? SO I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ARCHITECTURAL PLANS WITH CHARLES, AND I THINK YOU PROBABLY BROUGHT THAT BACK TO Y'ALL, BUT WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS, UM, WITH THAT USE OF SPACE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT I CAN SAY THERE.
AND WE ASSUME, SO OUR, IN OUR MINDS, WE DON'T BUILD ON THAT RIGHT YET UNTIL THREE 70 SEVEN'S WIDENED.
SO WE'RE DEMOLISHING THAT, BUT WE CAN, THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHAT WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT, RIGHT.
SYNCHRONIZING OUR
SO THAT MAKES SENSE, ESSENTIALLY, I THINK.
AND SO THEN I GUESS IN THAT, IN THAT SAME SYNCHRONIZATION IS Y'ALL ARE GONNA BE BUILDING BACK THERE AS WELL AND WE WANT TO ARCHITECTURALLY BE ON THE SAME SIDE OF THINGS, BUT LIKE WHAT, SO WHAT'S YOUR PLANS THERE? WHAT, DO Y'ALL HAVE A TIMELINE? WE, THE TIMELINE IS A BIG QUESTION.
WE, I'VE SEEN WHAT THREE DIFFERENT POSSIBLE FACADES.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED ABOUT THAT AS A COUNSELOR YET.
SO TIMELINE WISE, IT'S PROBABLY A WAYS OUT.
ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH, I MEAN, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON US? YOU DON'T WANNA, 'CAUSE WE, IF YOU HAVEN'T, DON'T HAVE, WE WANNA BE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AS FACADE.
SO IF Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ONE SET, THEN I DON'T REALLY WANNA, WE DON'T WANNA BUILD SOMETHING.
'CAUSE THAT'S YOUR MAIN ENTRANCE, RIGHT? YEAH.
I MEAN, I THINK Y'ALL GOT PLENTY OF TIME ON THAT ONE.
IF Y'ALL GOTTA BUILD A BUILDING, I, I, I DON'T THINK YOU PRIORITIZING EVERY BUILDING PRIORITIZE WHAT A DIFFERENT BUILDING VERSUS THAT ONE MAKES TOTALES THAT'S DIFFERENT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING OKAY.
LIKE SOMEWHERE ELSE VERSUS RIGHT THERE.
I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF CERTAINLY, UM, REMOVING AND, AND DEMOLISHING THAT BUILDING, CLEANING IT UP.
UH, AS FROM A PRESENTATION PERSPECTIVE, CONCERN I HAVE ABOUT WAITING LONG TERM IS 3 77.
MAN, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS, TWO YEARS.
I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S FLOODED, BUT THEY KEEP STALLING ON THAT.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE, IF THERE'S NEED, YOU KNOW HOW THAT WOULD, LIKE THEY WERE SAYING CHARLES, HOW DOES THAT FIT IN WITH SOME OF THE DESIGNS AND THOUGHTS WITH THE WELL IN THAT SCENARIO, TOM'S GONNA WORK IN OUR ADVANTAGE IN THAT SCENARIO.
'CAUSE MORE PEOPLE WILL COME TO THE AREA.
THE NEED WILL BE A GREATER AT THAT TIME.
WELL CERTAINLY IF IT'S, IF IT'S CLEANED UP AND THERE'S SOME SOMEBODY HAS AN INTEREST IN IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, IT'D BE GOOD.
THE POINT NOW IS THAT IT'S AN OLD BUILDING.
PROBABLY COULD BE CONSIDERED DANGEROUS BY SOME.
WELL, I'M SAYING IS PROCESS IT BEING DONE, JUST, JUST SAY IN ONE THOUGHT IS WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING BE.
IT'LL LOOK NICE WHEN FARM WAITING DID ASK, I DID ASK OUR ARCHITECTS PARK HILL TO INCLUDE THAT PROPERTY IN THE, THE MASTER CONCEPT FOR THE, THE HIGH MEADOW MUNICIPAL COMPLEX THAT WE WOULD HAVE THERE.
UH, THEY, THEY HAVE INCLUDED IT.
THEY'VE INCLUDED IT RIGHT NOW AS A TWO STORY BUILDING THAT WILL BE LONG WAYS FACING, UH, EAST WEST LONG WAYS SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE A PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH AND THAT YOU COULD ENTER THAT AREA WHERE THERE WOULD BE A MUNICIPAL COMPLEX.
AND I THINK THEY'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB SO FAR.
UH, WE ARE STILL WORKING AND TWEAKING ON THAT.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING TO THE M-D-T-M-D-D WITHIN THE NEXT 90 DAYS.
UH, SO YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AND SEE THOSE FACADES AS WELL AS SOON AS THEY'RE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
THEN WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION OVER TO YOU AS WELL SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
UH, BECAUSE THEY'VE REALLY, I THINK THEY'VE REALLY PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER TO HAVE A REALLY NICE AREA.
AND THAT WOULD BE YOU, YOU WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TWO LOCATIONS THERE.
YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE ON HIGH MEADOW THAT COULD BE ANOTHER RIGHT.
THAT WOULD BE THE ENTRANCE INTO RIGHT.
SO IT'S, IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT THE ARCHITECTS ARE WORKING ON IT NOW.
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THAT LOT.UM, ANYTHING ELSE? ANYBODY? ANYTHING OR ANYTHING? I THINK WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS WITH THE PHASE TWO OF DOWNTOWN DEVELOP IMPROVEMENTS HAPPENING IN TERMS OF LIKE OUR LOTS AND THE LOTS WE HAVE THERE.
AND IS THERE ANYTHING YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR PRIORITIZE? WE HAVE OUR MDD BUILDING, WHICH IS CHAMBER OFFICE AND MDD OFFICE WITH MUSEUM.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE LOT TO THE SOUTH THAT'S AT THE CORNER, UH, RIGHT AT 4 0 7 SOUTH, RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE OTHER PROPERTY THAT WE JUST, SO IT'S LOTS OF WEIRD TRIANGULAR LOT.
BUT UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE PARKING, PEDESTRIAN, UM, IMPROVEMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO JUST DIDN'T KNOW Y'ALL HAD A PRIORITY, UM, THAT WOULD GO IN LINE WITH THAT PHASE TWO.
YEAH, WELL LIKE THE, THE FAR END DOWN THERE ACROSS FROM 500.
MAN, IT'S HARD TO SAY UNTIL WE SEE WHAT PHASE TWO OF THE DOWNTOWN PLAN LOOKS LIKE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR IT GOES THAT WAY.
YOU SIT ON AND WAIT FOR THE HOUSE, THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO FINALLY SELL TO A COMMERCIAL.
THAT WAY THEY CAN BUILD A BIGGER, BETTER PRODUCT THERE.
IT'S JUST A WEIRD, IT MIGHT BE PARKING, OVERFLOW PARKING OR SOMETHING.
WELL THAT KIND OF SEGUES INTO THE, THE SAME THING I TALK ABOUT EVERY TIME WE HAVE THIS JOINT MEETING.
AND THAT'S Y'ALL BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN MM-HMM
SOMEBODY HAS TO BE THE, THE PEN THAT, OR THE CATALYST THAT CHANGES THE TRAJECTORY OF DOWNTOWN.
IS IT YOU GUYS OR ARE WE GONNA SIT AROUND AND WAIT ON SOMEBODY ELSE FROM THE OUTSIDE AND COME DO IT? YEAH, I THINK WE, THE THING THAT WE HAVE, WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE IS YOU'VE GOT TWO THINGS GOING ON WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO PURCHASE A PROPERTY, RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT, IS THERE A AN ECONOMIC VALUE THAT MAKES SENSE FROM A RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT STANDPOINT? RIGHT? AND AT THE OTHER, AND EQUALLY ON THE OTHER SIDE IS, IS THIS A, CAN WE BUY THIS PROPERTY TO BE PART OF THE CATALYST WITHOUT HAVING ANY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE ULTIMATE RETURN COULD BE, OTHER THAN WE HOPE IT'S GONNA BE A LOT BETTER THAN US NOT HAVING IT.
AND SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE THINK ABOUT AND WE TALK ABOUT AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE IS HOW DO YOU BALANCE THOSE TWO THINGS? YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY WE WANT DOWNTOWN DEVELOP, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE BLIND HIGHEST BIDDER FOR EVERY PROPERTY THAT COMES UP JUST SO SOMEONE ELSE DOESN'T RIGHT.
BUT I, I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT EVEN JUST TALKING ABOUT BUYING MORE PROPERTY.
I'M TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY THAT YOU ALREADY OWN.
WELL, AND THAT'S PARTLY WHERE THE ECONOMICS COME IN BECAUSE YOU CAN RUN SCENARIOS AND SAY, OKAY, IF WE PAY X FOR THIS PROPERTY AND JUST ASSUME WE WERE THE DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, WE WERE GONNA BUY IT AND PUT SOMETHING ON THERE.
WE, I DON'T THINK IN THE PAST WE'VE DONE THIS, BUT WE'VE STARTED TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
IT'S LIKE, OKAY, SO WHAT COULD YOU ACTUALLY PUT HERE? LIKE IF, IF WE WANTED TO GO TO SOMEBODY AND SAY, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO PUT THIS THING HERE, WE HAVE AT LEAST AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THEY WOULD THINK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF RETURN THEY WOULD NEED AND AT WHAT PRICE TO GET IT SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE SOPHISTICATED IN OUR, WE CAN BE MORE STRATEGIC AND TACTICAL AND, AND SAY, OKAY, IF WE PAY X, WE COULD PUT THIS KIND OF BUILDING THERE AND IT WOULD GENERATE THIS KIND OF RENT.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TAKE THE NEXT STEP SO WE CAN HAVE TWO OR THREE SCENARIOS SO THAT WE JUST AREN'T BLINDLY DOING THINGS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BOUGHT SO FAR, OTHER THAN WE THINK WE'LL GET SOMETHING THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL.
BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF ANCHOR.
BECAUSE THERE MAY BE A POINT WE'D BE LIKE, PEOPLE LIKE I WOULD NEVER BUY, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE MCDONALD JUST THROW OUT, YOU KNOW, MCDONALD'S WILL BE LIKE, I WOULDN'T, WE CANNOT MAKE MONEY IF WE HAVE TO PAY X AMOUNT FOR THIS LOT OR WHATEVER.
WELL, THE, THE PURCHASES Y'ALL ARE MADE.
YOU'RE JUST BEING STRATEGIC AND PLAYING THE LONG GAME.
NO, IT'S DEFINITELY GONNA GO UP IN VALUE.
AND LIKE THE LAST THING WE BOUGHT, WE BOUGHT AT A GREAT PRICE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK THE MAKEUP OF OUR MDD, WE HAVE A GREAT BALANCE OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT SKILLS WE NEED.
WE HAVE FINANCE, WE HAVE REAL ESTATE, WE HAVE A HISTORY AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE CITY.
WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE CITY PROGRAM.
SO I, I THINK THE BOARD, THE WAY IT'S MADE UP WILL HELP US IN THE FUTURE.
'CAUSE WE NOW HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT AS A GROUP WE'RE VETTING ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO WHERE I PERSONALLY, I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD ON A
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YEAR AND A HALF, AND I THINK ORIGINALLY WE WERE JUST KIND OF, WE JUST NEED TO GET EVERYTHING THAT COMES UP BECAUSE IT'S GONNA GET MORE EXPENSIVE.WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY.
BUT, BUT, AND I THINK HAVING THE PLAN NOW, YOU KNOW, HAVING THESE OVERALL PLANS, IT DOES HELP US SAY, THIS IS GONNA BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THIS.
SO, YOU KNOW, OKAY, THAT'D BE GREAT TO OWN THAT PIECE OF LAND OVER HERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T GET US FORWARD.
WE'D RATHER SAVE OUR LITTLE KITTY BECAUSE WE'D RATHER HAVE THIS.
AND OF COURSE THINGS AREN'T GONNA COME UP WHEN WE WANT THEM AT THE PRICE.
BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE MORE SOPHISTICATED IN THE FUTURE OF COMBINING THE TWO THINGS.
AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING YOU SAID, BUT I'M SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT Y'ALL BUILDING A BUILDING WHERE THE CHAMBER AND THE MUSEUM BUILDINGS ARE.
UM, YEAH, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
EVERY JOINT MEETING WE'VE DONE SINCE I ABOUT MAYOR.
UM, I MEAN, YEAH, ALL Y'ALL HAVE PARK HILL IN PLACE.
HAVE Y'ALL THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING THEM DESIGN? WHAT WOULD A BUILDING, WHAT CO A BUILDING LOOK LIKE? AND WE WANNA PUT HERE, UM, Y'ALL ENOUGH, WE, WE MENTION THAT WE HAVE, WE, WHEN WE, UH, ENGAGED THEM FOR THE MOM'S BUILDING PROJECT, THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S, WE HAVE JUST, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY HOURS WE GO THROUGH WITH THE MOM'S BUILDING, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE ENOUGH LEFT OR IF WE DECIDE TO ADD ON TO THAT AGREEMENT.
I MEAN, I THINK IF THE SEVEN OF Y'ALL SAT DOWN WITH THE PARK HILL FOLKS AND SAID THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.
SEE IF WE BUILD A BUILDING HERE, WE WANNA SEE THIS MAYBE A PATIO SPACE FACING THE PARK.
I WOULDN'T GO ANY TALLER THAN THAT, BUT NO, I WAS GONNA, NO, I THINKER AUBREY.
I THINK TRUCK WE'RE DOING THE MA THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IS THAT MM-HMM
SO I THINK WHEN THAT THE STAFF IN THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, I BELIEVE THEY DECIDED TO DO THE REDO A MASTER PLAN, THE REVISION, NOT REDO IT, BUT A REVISION OF THE DRAWINGS.
AND I THINK THAT WILL HELP A LOT TOO WITH SOME OF THAT VISION OF WHAT GOES WHERE.
WELL I THINK PART OF THAT MIGHT WORK HAND IN HAND.
IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE IN SIZE.
IT'S SURROUNDED BY ROADS, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH.
SIDEWALKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT IS MINOR.
IT'S, IT'S GOOD TIMING IN TERMS OF DESIGN, I THINK.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING THE TIMING ON JUST WANNA GET DONE NOW? YEAH.
THAT SPACE WHERE YOU COULD HAVE A, A REALLY NICE SPORTS BAR WITH PATIO FACING THE THE TOP PATIO
BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
'CAUSE THAT AGAIN KIND OF SETS THE BAR FOR BETWEEN THAT AND THE TENANT THAT EVENTUALLY WILL INHABIT THE MOM'S OWN MAIN SHELL.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
I, I THINK THE NEW BUILDING OKAY, I, I AGREE WITH YOU.
WELL, WHOEVER MOVES INTO MOM IS GONNA BE A GAME CHANGER.
TRUST, LIKE DUST MESS CLASS WAS RIGHT? YES.
BUT THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
BUT ADDING A NEW BUILDING THAT FOLLOWS THAT SAME DEAL, IT PAINTS, IT PAINTS A PICTURE TO EVERYONE IN THE AREA THAT DOWNTOWN AUBREY IS GROWING.
'CAUSE UNTIL SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS, AUBREY WILL BE DOWNTOWN.
WHO'S THE CATALYST? IS IT, IS IT YOU GUYS? ARE WE WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO COME BE THAT GUY? MM-HMM
PROACTIVITY HAS BEEN AGAIN, AN OVERARCHING THEME FOR OUR GROUP MM-HMM
AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MEETING FOR US TO ENSURE THAT OUR INITIATIVES ARE ALIGNED, THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE PROACTIVE.
WELL WE KNOW THE LARGEST PROPERTY OWNER DOWNTOWN.
THAT IT'S UNDER OUR CONTROL, SO YEAH.
SO I'M HEARING OUR OF ALL THIS YEAR'S, WE NEED TO GET PARK HILL TO DO A DESIGN OF OUR LOT.
CAN WE DO MULTIPLE SITES OR IS IT RIGHT HERE? CONCEPT.
WE CAN DO IT ON THE SITES THAT WE ALREADY OWN.
WE DON'T EVEN LOOK AT ANY OTHER SITES.
WE ALREADY OWN TWO, TWO SITES DOWN THERE AND JUST USE THOSE.
MAKE SURE IT ALIGNS WITH THE MASTER PLAN AND GO YEAH.
I MEAN Y'ALL OWN THE WHOLE BLOCK.
LIKE YOU COULD TELL PARK HILL, LIKE WE WANT ONE SCENARIO WHERE WE WANT TO LEAVE THE PARKING LOT THAT'S THERE.
WE, WE OR MAYBE OPTION B IS LET'S JUST USE THE WHOLE BLOCK YEP.
AND WE'LL PUT PARKING SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THERE'S BUNCH OF OLDER BUILDING.
IT WILL, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT, UM, A LOT OF PLACES FOR PARKING THAT YOU CAN MAKE DOWN THERE THAT WE ARE ALREADY EXPANDING INTO.
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YEAH.YOU COULD LOSE THE PARKING LOT AT SOME POINT.
WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING IN 160 PARKING SPACES MM-HMM
ACROSS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND HALF A BLOCK.
IT'S NOT EVEN A BLOCK TO WALK.
UNLESS IT'S RAINING AND YOU'RE THE ONE WALKING IN THAT BUILDING EVERY DAY.
THIS IS LIKE, I'VE BEEN THERE.
I'LL SAY THERE ARE SOME RESTAURANT CONCEPTS THAT IN REGIONAL RESTAURANTS, IF WE WERE TRYING TO TRACK ONE, THEY DO REQUIRE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PARKING FOR THEIR RESTAURANT.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
BUT THAT'S, WE HAVEN'T PINNED THAT ONE DOWN
SO JUST KNOW THAT PARKING IS IMPORTANT.
WELL, I MEAN THE WHOLE THING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TWO STORY TO BE PARKED.
PARK HILL WILL BE ABLE TO HELP US, GUIDE US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
USES THAT CAN BE LET IT OUT AND THINGS IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT INCUBATOR SPACES BEFORE PART OF THAT BUILDING AND THAT'S KIND OF COME THANK YOU PLEASE, MIKE.
NO, EXACTLY WHERE I, MY PASSION HAS BEEN, UH, EVEN PARTICIPATING IN THE, UH, ALBA ACCELERATOR BUSINESS ACCELERATOR COURSE IS IT'S VERY EYE-OPENING TO, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE STARTUP COSTS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES FROM, UH, IMPACT FEES AND PERMITTING FEES AND ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT, UH, REALLY PROHIBIT A SMALL PERSON, A SMALL COMPANY FROM GROWING FROM GROUND UP.
SO HAVING AN INCUBATOR SPACE WHERE YOU COULD HAVE AN OFFICE AND THEN DO SOME OTHER THINGS.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE ONE OF MY VISIONS WOULD BE FOR DOESN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY BE DOWNTOWN.
IT COULD BE OFF THE PATH A LITTLE BIT.
BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE WALK A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU THINK INCUBATOR SPACE, YOU THINK OF RETAIL INCUBATOR SPACE.
I WANT BE ABLE TO SELL MY PRODUCT.
I WANT SOMEWHERE TO BE A BRICK AND MORTAR MM-HMM.
WHERE I DON'T HAVE TO GO BUILD MY OWN BRICK AND MORTAR.
BUT INCUBATOR SPACE CAN ALSO APPLY TO A, A BUSINESS SCENARIO TOO.
IF I HAVE A BUSINESS LIKE, UH, ADMINISTERING A WORD, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I DON'T WANT TO GO PAY RENT FOR A, AN OFFICE SPACE, BUT I HAVE THIS, IT'S LIKE AN INTERNET CAFE.
YEAH, NO, THAT DIDN'T WORK IN COLORADO.
THEY HAD ONE OF THESE BAKER PLACES AND YOU HAD AN OFFICE, YOU KNOW, ONE 10 BY 20 ROOM FOR LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, IT WAS A HUNDRED BUCKS A MONTH, BUT IT WAS AN OFFICE AND I HAD A COPIER THERE AND I WAS A DEMONSTRATION UNIT AND I COULD GET UP AND GOING IN TOWN.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN, LIKE YOU SAY, PUT THE RETAIL, I'M THINKING MORE OFFICE SPACES FOR PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WHERE I HAVE A HOME BUSINESS, BUT I DON'T WANNA PUT MY HOME ADDRESS ON MY WEBSITE AND PUBLISH MY HOME ADDRESS EVERYWHERE.
YOU HAVE A BUSINESS HOME SPOT, YOU CAN GET YOUR MAIL THERE AND YOU HAVE A SUITE, YOU KNOW, OR YOU JUST HAVE A, A PLACE THAT YOU COULD HAVE A SUITE WITHOUT AN OFFICE, BUT YOU HAVE YOUR ADDRESS.
THERE'S ALL KIND OF WAYS THAT YOU CAN WORK WITH IT.
I THINK AN INCUBATOR SPACE TO HELP SUPPORT GROWING SMALL BUSINESSES IN OPRY, WHICH IS THE BACK, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS THE BACKBONE OF, OF THE GROWTH OF A, OF A, OF A SMALL GROWING CITY.
LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK REMOTE WORK IS A WAY TO STAY AT HOME AND DO A JOB, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST THAT IT'S A WAY TO DO, IT'S A WAY TO DO THE JOB AWAY FROM THE CORPORATE OFFICE.
MAYBE YOUR CORPORATE OFFICE IS IN NEW YORK, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GO TO NEW YORK ALL THE TIME AND MAYBE HOME JUST ISN'T IN A, UH, AN ATMOSPHERE WHERE YOU, MAYBE YOU GOT 10 KIDS AND DOGS AND ONE KID
NO, IT'S JUST NOT, IT'S NOT A GOOD SPACE TO DO THAT.
SO HAVING SOMEWHERE TO GO, EVEN IF IT'S JUST LIKE A BIG ROOM WITH, WITH DIFFERENT CUBICLES AROUND THAT, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONALS, LIKE REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS WOULDN'T HAVE TO SIT IN, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR CAR IN COFFEE SHOPS SOMEPLACE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN GO IN THERE AND SIT DOWN AND DO THAT KIND OF WORK.
I'VE BUILT, I'VE BUILT QUITE A FEW OF THOSE IN THE PAST AND I BUILT SOME IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS AND THREE OF 'EM IN HOUSTON.
AND YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'LL HAVE THE ONES THAT I'VE DONE HAD A COUPLE LARGE CONFERENCE ROOMS. THEY HAD, UM, A BUNCH OF, HAD A BAR IN ONE OF 'EM AND HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, PRINTER, PRINTER SPACES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND SO EVERY TENANT HAD A BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE A 15 BY 15 OFFICE MM-HMM
AND THEN IF YOU CALLED THERE AND YOU WOULD PICK UP THE PHONE FOR, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A RECEPTIONIST THERE AND THE LINE WOULD LIGHT UP AND IT'D SAY A B, C CONSTRUCTION AND SHE WOULD TRANSFER THEM TO A, B, C CONSTRUCTION OR IF THEY WERE GOING ANOTHER TYPE OF BUSINESS, SHE COULD TRANSFER 'EM THERE.
AND THEN IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE CLIENTS COME IN, YOU HAD, YOU COULD USE THE CONFERENCE ROOM, YOU COULD USE THE BAR, YOU COULD USE THE AMENITIES THAT THEY HAD.
AND THEN YOU JUST RENTED THAT 15 BY 15 OFFICE EVERY DAY
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AND OR, AND THEY DID IT BY THE MONTH MM-HMMTHEY RAN 'EM FOR ABOUT 2000 A MONTH.
EVERY, AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE PUT 80 OFFICES IN THOSE MID-RISE HIGH-RISES AND YOU KNOW, THEY MADE A TON OF MONEY AND THEY WERE PACKED FULL.
THE COMPANY I WORK FOR, KIND OF THE SAME DEAL.
THEY'RE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL REMOTE SERVICE TECHNICIANS.
OUR CORPORATE OFFICES IN CONNECTICUT, OUR TRAINING FACILITIES IN LAS VEGAS.
WE'VE GOT 25 GUYS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT BASICALLY WORK FROM HOME AND WE JUST GO AROUND AND SO EVERY QUARTER WE'LL ALL GET TOGETHER AND HAVE A, LIKE A GROUP MEETING, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO DO THAT.
SO THEY, THERE'S PLACES OUT THERE WHERE YOU CAN GO RENT A CONFERENCE ROOM RIGHT.
FOR THE DAY AND YOU JUST, WE ALL MADE IT THAT CONFERENCE ROOM.
WELL IT WAS GREAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN WITHIN THAT SPACE THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, THAT HAVE, MAY HAVE A BIG PROJECT THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON IN HOUSTON, THEIR MAIN OFFICE IS, YOU KNOW, IN CONNECTICUT OR SOMETHING.
SO IT'S A LOT CHEAPER AND IT'S A LOT BETTER FOR SOMEBODY NOT TO WORK OUTTA THEIR HOTEL ROOM OR THEIR CAR.
THEY'VE, YOU COULD RENT ONE OF THESE SMALL OFFICES FOR THE MONTH OR FOR THE YEAR, WHATEVER YOU WANTED TO DO.
AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY, WHEN SOMEBODY, WHEN ONE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS WOULD WALK IN, THEY'D HAVE YOUR BUSINESS NAME ON THE WALL AND EVERYTHING AND THERE WAS A RECEPTIONIST THERE TO HELP 'EM.
SO, UM, I, I SEE GREAT USE IN IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I WANNA CIRCLE BACK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING PARK HILL TO DO IS SHOULD WE INCLUDE DESIGNS THAT INCLUDE MOVING THE LIBRARY VERSUS, I MEAN THE MUSEUM VERSUS NOT? BECAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN MY MIND, KIND OF A TOTALLY SEPARATE THING.
SO SHOULD, SHOULD WE TRY BOTH? I THINK IF YOU BUILT A NEW BUILDING, YOU COULD DESIGNATE A SPACE INSIDE THE NEW BUILDING YES.
MAYBE IT'S IN THE CORNER FACING THE PARK BACK BY THE FIRE STATION AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT MONITOR THAT WHAT HE'S SAYING ABOUT THE ROOM AND HAVE YOU, THEY CALL IN AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER.
SO KIND OF INCORPORATE INTO THE OH, ABSOLUTELY.
I, IT WOULD BE HARD TO BUILD EQUIPMENT AND NOT TOUCH AND JUST LEAVE THE MUSEUM AS IS.
NOW THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE A FACILITY THAT WAS INVESTED IN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IN 15, 20 YEARS.
BUT THERE'S, IT WOULD GIVE A LOT MORE WINDOW SPACE TO THE OUTSIDE.
MORE VISIBILITY TO THE PUBLIC.
AND I THINK ACCESSIBILITY TOO.
MORE TECHNOLOGY AND VIDEO AND INTERACTION.
AND IF THE SPACE IS EVEN A LITTLE BIT LARGER MORE THAN THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, IT WOULD, IT WOULD HELP, UH, MS. FULLER ACCOMPLISH HER OTHER GOAL OF HAVING A SOUVENIR SHOP.
ASKING ABOUT THERE YOU, SO YOU'RE PUSHING THAT.
SHALL I WRITE THAT ONE DOWN? POP SOUVENIR PEANUT.
WHAT KIND OF SOUVENIRS? STILL STICKERS.
SAY I GOT TO AUBREY AS QUICK AS I COULD.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS ABOUT INTERACTIVE, UH, INTERACTIVE ITEMS FOR CHILDREN TO COME IN A SPACE WHERE YOU COULD HAVE BIRTHDAY PARTIES, A SPACE THAT YOU COULD RENT OUT TO HAVE A MEETING.
THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS VERY INTERESTED IN THAT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HOPE TO WORK WITH THE MUSEUM ON IN THE FUTURE.
THAT E EVEN IF WE JUST PARTNER WITH THEM SOMEHOW.
OR THAT WE INCORPORATE THE MUSEUM INTO THE CITY SOMEHOW THROUGH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND HAVE A, A NEW MUSEUM BOARD.
THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS THERE FOR US IN THE FUTURE IF WE COULD BUILD A LIBRARY UP.
I, I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT IF WE BUILT IT UP PROPERLY, WE COULD HAVE A, A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE THAT DID RUN A GIFT SHOP THERE.
'CAUSE YOU COULD DO ONLINE ORDERS AND GET THINGS OUT TO PEOPLE AND IT COULD HELP FUND THE PROJECT AS WELL.
SO IT'S SOMETHING OUR PARTS DEPARTMENT'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR OVER A YEAR.
AND THAT'S ALL HELPFUL TO KNOW WHAT WE, WHAT Y'ALL ARE WANTING TO SEE IN THIS BUILDING SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT TO TELL PARK HILL.
I MEAN, UPSTAIRS Y'ALL COULD EASILY PUT A SPACE FOR YOU GUYS.
THE CHAMBER CAN GO IN THERE SOMEWHERE.
ANYTHING ELSE? DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER INPUT? CAN YOU GET THAT DONE BY NEXT YEAR? WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON IT GETTING, GETTING BUILT.
Y'ALL ARE GIVING ME GRAY HAIR.
SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION IN THE MEANTIME WITH THAT LOT AND JUST, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE HAD SOME FOOD TRUCKS WANT TO USE IT BEFORE, UM,
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WHERE THAT CONCRETE PAD IS.UM, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE, IN THE INTERIM THAT IF WE HAD A POPUP VENDOR THAT MIGHT WANT TO COME, WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE FROM THE, IN, FROM THE ACCELERATOR CLASS THAT I'M JUST KIND OF MIGHT, DO YOU THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME WHICH WATER? WE, SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO DO LIKE A POPUP SHOP SOMETIMES ON THAT.
SHE'S TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE PAD BACK HERE, WHERE THE PAD, THE METAL BARN WAS THAT WE TORE DOWN? NO, JUST AS AN INTERIM, LIKE IN BETWEEN MARKETS WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE, WE HAVE A VENDOR AGREEMENT THAT WE DID A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN WE CLEARED THAT SHED OFF AND WE'VE HAD LIKE ONE PERSON USE IT.
UM, THEY HAD TO PARK IN PARKING LOT BECAUSE THE TRUCK WAS TOO BIG.
BUT, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WOULD WANT TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO SEE IF MORE PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO USE THAT JUST TO BRING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN AND IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NEED TO CONSIDER IN, IN THE FUTURE MEETING IF WE'D WANT TO CHARGE FOR THAT SPACE FOR THEM TO PARK SOMETHING THERE, SET UP A TENT, SELL SOMETHING IN BETWEEN THE MARKET SATURDAYS, BUT ON.
DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE WANTING TO TRY POPUPS POPUP SHOPS, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE A BUILDING TO PUT THEM IN RIGHT NOW FOR A POPUP.
SEEMS MORE OF A POLICY DECISION ON Y'ALL'S PART, RIGHT? YEAH.
I MEAN, THE ONLY COMMENTS I HAVE WOULD BE ABLE IS ONE OF THE DOWNFALLS THAT PAT IS IT'S HIDDEN BEHIND THE BUILDINGS.
AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO GET TO TRAFFIC WISE BECAUSE OF THE FIRE STATION AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, LIMITED SOME OF THE WAY THAT THE ROADS ARE BACK THERE.
SO I MEAN, BUT IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, A POLICY.
IF YOU GUYS, IF THEY WANT TO DO IT AND YOU GUYS AND IT WORKS WITH THE CITY AND THE TRAFFIC, IT COULD BE IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS TOO.
BUT I JUST, I JUST KNOW THAT IN THE INTERIM IT'S A GOOD WAY TO ALSO KIND OF FOR BUSINESSES TO TEST MARKET.
UM, IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T HURT, YOU CAN TRY IT AND SEE.
I GUESS COULD YOU DO A BREAKFAST TACO
YOU COULD MORE VISIBILITY THERE.
THEY WOULD HAVE A LOT OF VISIBILITY UP THERE.
YOU CAN READ THAT SPACE OUT TO FOOD TRUCKS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PAY, DID THEY PAY SPRING MARKET TO HAVE THE NO, IT'S JUST AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY HAVE LIKE A VERBAL, THEY PAY THE OTHER PLACES THEY PARK THOUGH IN TOWN.
YES, BUT NOT, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S MARKETING, BUT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD INTERIM USE AS LONG AS WE CAN GET SOME SALES TAX FROM IT.
THEY WOULD COLLECT THE SALES TAX IN ALL.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT.
PLUS BARRIER TO ENTRY, WHATEVER WE DO FOR THESE SMALL BUSINESSES.
HOSPITALITY ARM OF SORTS AS WE MAKE THE ARRANGEMENTS.
JUST NO I AND A CORNERSTONE SO THAT IT'S NOT MA WHEN THEY BECOME, WHEN THEY TRY TO GET A APPLICATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SHE'S JUST SAYING HER COMMENT.
IT'S B UM, WHEN THEY GO TO GET APPLICATIONS, I, I KEEP HEARING PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT PROCESS, BUT I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S HARD, IT'S PART OF EVERYBODY'S CITY POLICIES, BUT THAT'S ONE THING THAT THEY KE I KEEP RUNNING INTO RUNNING, UH, I GUESS I'M NOT FOLLOWING JUST WHEN A FOOD TRUCK'S CO WHEN A FOOD TRUCK COMES IN.
BUT IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO YOUR, THE POLICIES AND THE ALL THE PROCEDURES AND UM, IMPACT FEES.
IMPACT FEES AND EVERYTHING FOR A BUSINESS TO COME IN.
IT'S, IT GETS TO BE A LOT FOR A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES THAT ARE TRYING, THAT ARE SMALL AND TRYING TO MAKE THEIR WAY.
BUT I THINK IT'S JUST, I MEAN I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, I THINK A IMPACT FEE IS ONLY GONNA APPLY TO A BUSINESS THAT'S STARTING WITH A PIECE OF DIRT FROM SCRATCH.
THEY'RE LEASING AN ALREADY IN PLACE RETAIL SPACE.
DOES THAT APPLY, CHRISTINE? DO YOU KNOW? I KNOW AT THE ALBA CLASS IT WAS DISCUSSED.
I JUST KNOW THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE SAYING.
WELL THAT WAS FOR A DEVELOPMENT, LIKE THEY'RE GONNA BUILD FROM THE GROUND UP, BUT IF THEY'RE LEASING A PROPERTY, THERE ARE SOME PERMITS AND FEES THEY DO HAVE TO PAY AS WELL.
UM, BUT ALSO THE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR INSTANCE, YOU'VE GOT A SOLID WASTE FEE OR YOU'VE GOT A, YOUR STORMWATER DRAINAGE FEES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS FOR A BUSINESS, THEY'RE THE LANDLORD PROPERTY OWNERS TEND TO PASS THAT ON THROUGH TO THE TENANTS.
UM, AND JUST COST OF RUNNING A BRICK AND MORTAR.
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ESPECIALLY FOR RETAIL AND SOME RESTAURANT, NOT RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, GOT OTHER ISSUE, OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT BE CAUSING THEM TO HAVE SOME, SOME COST, UM, ISSUES.BUT IN TERMS OF RETAIL AND SMALLER OFFICE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IF PEOPLE CAN SELL IT ONLINE OR DO DO WORK ONLINE, LOT TIMES THEY'RE GONNA TEND TO DO THAT.
JUST BECAUSE OF THE COST OF BEING IN A BRICK AND MORTAR.
AND UNLESS YOU HAVE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT YOU KNOW, UM, ARE GONNA GIVE SOME GREAT TENANT IMPROVEMENTS AND, UH, NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE BEGINNING OF A LEASE, FIRST THREE YEARS WHILE THEY GET ESTABLISHED IT, IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE, WHICH IS WHERE WE HOPE OUR GRANTS CAN COME IN AND HELP WITH SOME OF THAT TENANT IMPROVEMENT WHEN YOU INITIALLY MOVE IN.
BUT THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN'T GIVE GRANTS FOR AND MONEY FOR THAT THEY MIGHT NEED ASSISTANCE WITH AS THEY ARE GETTING THEIR SECOND AND THIRD YEAR BUSINESS.
IF YOU DO HEAR, TALK TO THOSE NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN NEW, UM, I MEAN THAT'S OUR JOB.
BUT IF Y'ALL DO TALK TO SOMEBODY, THE NEW NEW, UM, I CAN'T EVEN THINK MY BRAIN'S NOT WORKING.
BUT IF YOU TALK TO THEM, LET 'EM KNOW THAT WE HAVE GRANTS THAT BE AN ADVOCATE FOR US, PLEASE.
SO THAT WE CAN TALK TO THEM AND HELP THEM OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
THAT'S WHAT WE ASK FROM Y'ALL, PLEASE.
OUR CITY STAFF HAS BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT LETTING BUSINESSES KNOW ABOUT GRANTS BEFORE THEY APPLY TO THEIR PERMITS SO THAT WE CAN GET THEM BEFORE THEY START THAT PERMIT PROCESS.
'CAUSE ONCE THEY START THE PERMIT PROCESS, WE CAN'T DO THE GRANTS.
SO, UM, WE TRY TO CATCH 'EM EARLY.
A LOT OF TIMES IT DOESN'T WORK OUT THAT WAY, BUT THEY'RE, OUR STAFF HAS BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT, THEY'RE VERY AWARE OF WHAT OUR, OUR GRANT PROGRAM IS.
AND IF Y'ALL DO HERE, HAVE BUSINESSES THAT ARE STRUGGLING, LET US KNOW TOO.
WE'RE SAD TO LOSE ONE ALREADY.
KEEP US UP TO DATE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
I'M, I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO GO VISIT WITH A BUSINESS.
UM, A LOT OF WHAT I HEAR IS CONFIDENTIAL.
IF THERE IS SOMETHING I CAN DO TO HELP, WE CAN DO OR SUGGEST TO THEM TO HELP THEM.
UM, SOMETIMES BY THE TIME WE GET TO 'EM, IT'S A LITTLE TOO LATE.
THINGS HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN MOTION OR THEY'VE MADE A DECISION.
BUT, UM, THERE ARE SOME DISCUSSIONS THAT I HAVE I'M ABLE TO HAVE THAT I CAN GO BACK AND ASK, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP THEM WITH THIS? OR, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, IS THIS, IS THIS A PERMIT ISSUE? IS IT A POLICY ISSUE? UM, IS THERE A WAY TO WORK AROUND IT? WORK WITH IT.
BUT IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT SOMETIMES BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW.
THERE'S A LOT THAT'S HAPPENED UP TO THE POINT WHERE WE GET THERE.
SO SOMETIMES IT'S JUST TIMING.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS OR PRIORITIES FOR OUR GOALS? I MEAN, WE HEARD MAJOR ONE, WE GET STARTED ON THAT.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS NEED FROM A SET OF COUNCIL BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT TIME WE DO THIS? NO, I DON'T THINK, OTHER THAN IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND LOOKING AT OUR BYLAWS, I MEAN, I THINK HE'S GONNA PRESENT THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE? ANYBODY, ANY GUIDANCE? NOT SPECIFICALLY.
I JUST THINK AS A RESIDENT, NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE
WE KNOW THAT WE WANT TO SEE MORE COFFEE SHOPS AND TACOS FOR MIKE AND OFFICE BUILDING AND INCUBATOR SPACE AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
ALL OF THESE THINGS TAKE SO MUCH TIME IN PLANNING AND BEING PROACTIVE.
AND SO JUST CONSISTENTLY PARTNERING, CONTINUING TO PARTNER.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING, YOU KNOW, THESE TYPES OF THINGS GO VERTICAL.
UM, AND WE'RE KIND OF HONORED TO SERVE IN POSITIONS WHERE HOPEFULLY WE CAN HELP FACILITATE SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
UM, BUT JUST HAVING THAT IN MIND AS THE DEVELOPERS COME IN WITH THE ROOFTOPS, WE JUST WANNA DO OUR PART AND, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BRINGING US OFFICE BUILDINGS INTO DIFFERENT NEEDS THAT CAN SERVE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE PROUD TO BE PART OF.
SO I'D SAY, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE COUNCIL, BUT I SURE APPRECIATE THE DYNAMICS THAT Y'ALL HAVE.
Y'ALL ARE, Y'ALL ARE DOING GREAT STUFF.
I CAN'T SPEAK FOR COUNCIL
YOU KNOW, IT WAS VERY INTERESTING.
IT HAD BEEN, IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS I GUESS, AND JUST IN THE PAST LIKE YEAR AND A HALF WE'VE BEEN, IT'S BEEN GOING.
I MEAN, Y'ALL HAVE BEEN GOING TOO.
BUT IT'S BEEN COOL TO SEE THE, THE EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SO FAR.
AND THANKS FOR Y'ALL'S HELP AND SUPPORT.
'CAUSE WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT Y'ALL.
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WHO OWNS THE COMMERCIAL PIECES AND THE ONE IN FRONT OF PALOMINO AND THE ONE AT FRONTIER AND MCNAT.FRONTIER AND MCNAT IS, I'M NOT POSITIVE.
I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK ABOUT PALINO.
I THINK WE OWN A EAST IN PALINO.
THE CITY OWNS A PIECE IN PALINO AND I WANT TO SAY THAT WE OWN THE ONE AT FRONTIER PARKWAY AND MCNA AS WELL.
BUT E EITHER WAY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL CAN KEEP ON THE RADAR.
IF YOU FIND SOMEBODY LOOKING FOR A COMMERCIAL SPACE IN THAT AREA.
THOSE, THOSE ARE CITY OWNED BLOCKS THAT ARE GONNA BE AVAILABLE FOR CELL, OR SORRY, ALL PROPOSAL
BACK ON THE ONE AT FRONTIER IN MCNA.
I THINK THAT WE, I I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT ONE.
SO DON'T, DON'T HOLD ME TO THE FACT THAT WE OWN THAT ONE.
BUT I'M NOT RECALLING RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I KNOW A LOT OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT TAKES INVESTMENT MONEY AND, AND CAPITAL.
BUT UM, I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAVE SOME BUSINESSES AND, AND PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME, BUT WELL, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE PROPERTIES TOO EXPENSIVE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE 10, 20 ACRE LOTS OR PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT CAN BE ACQUIRED, UM, FOR SOMETHING LIKE A LIGHT COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING SOME OF THAT LIKE DOWN IN KRUGER AND 3 77 OR SOME AREAS WHERE YOU COULD FOSTER A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMERCIAL.
I WOULDN'T BE AFRAID AT LEAST TWO.
SEE WHAT OPTIONS MIGHT BE DO THAT.
YOU COULD ACQUIRE IT, BUT, AND I'M GOING AROUND THE BUSH SAYING, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, THE MORE, UM, POSSIBILITIES WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL GROWTH FROM A PROPERTY PERSPECTIVE IS JUST GOING TO, I THINK HELP US BE MORE SELECTIVE OF WHAT KIND OF COMPANIES.
OTHERWISE SOMEBODY WILL COME IN AND WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, 30 HOMES ON THREE ACRES OR SOMETHING.
WE NEED SOME JOBS HERE THAT WOULD KEEP PEOPLE FROM HAVING TO COMMUTE.
WE CAN GET SOME OF THAT LAND FOR THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
UM, CERTAINLY GONNA HELP US IN THE LONG RUN.
AND IF Y'ALL, I MEAN THAT'S WHERE IT COMES INTO DISCUSSIONS WITH LANDOWNERS AND JUST TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT THE FUTURE USE OF THEIR LAND.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY MIGHT CONSIDER SELLING FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS BECAUSE HONESTLY, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE THE DRIVER PROVIDING THAT OPPORTUNITY UNLESS WE OWN THE ONE.
I MEAN, THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH IT'S CHANGED SINCE SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
YEAH, I MEAN, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE HAD AN ENTREPRENEUR ONE TO BRING A SCOOTER OR COFFEE SHOP OUT TOWN AND THEY COULDN'T FIND ANYWHERE IT GOES, THEY WENT TO ANOTHER CITY.
I THINK IF THAT SAME PERSON CAME ALONG RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY FIND SOMEWHERE TO PUT THEM.
AND I DID JUST MEET WITH THE OWNERS OF BAHAMA BUCKS THAT ARE GONNA BE OPENING AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT MAY, BUT THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED.
UH, AUBREY PARENTS THAT WENT, KIDS WENT TO AUBREY HIGH SCHOOL AND NOW THEY'RE, SO IT'S A GOOD STORY.
UM, BUT THEY WANTED TO STAY IN AUBREY IN TERMS OF DOING BUSINESS AND THAT'S WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HERE.
THEY LIKE THE SMALL TOWN FEEL AND THEY WANNA OPEN A BUSINESS HERE, WHETHER IT'S FRANCHISE, INDEPENDENTLY OWNED BUSINESS.
BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT A LOT GOING FOR US IN THAT COMMUNITY FEEL.
UM, AND I THINK JUST MIGHT RIGHT.
SPEAK TO IT TOO, THE ACCELERATOR PROGRAM, THEY REALLY FELT THIS IS A CONNECTION FOR THEM.
TO THE COMMUNITY, HAVING THAT PROGRAM.
SO YEAH, THE, I DON'T THINK WE TOUCH MUCH ABOUT IT, BUT THE, WE DO HAVE THAT.
UM, I HOPE Y'ALL KNOW WE HAVE THE LOCAL, THE AUBREY LOCAL BUSINESS ACCELERATOR THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
THE LAST SESSION IS TO TOMORROW NIGHT THE 11TH.
AND UM, THEN THEY'LL HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION, GRADUATION ON FEBRUARY 25TH.
THERE WERE, THEY HAD 11 BUSINESSES PARTICIPATE.
SO THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD FOR THE FIRST, UM, INAUGURAL EVENT.
BUT, UM, AND I THINK IT'S GONE WELL.
I KNOW AARON SPOKE AND THEY HAD SOME OTHER REAL, UM, PEOPLE COME SPEAK.
I I'VE HAD GREAT FEEDBACK FROM IT.
SOME OF THEM ARE CHAMBER MEMBERS AND SO I GOT TO TALK TO HIM AT THE CHAMBER MEETING AND THEY ALL SAID HAD GREAT THINGS TO SAY ABOUT IT.
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A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE CAN DO.THAT'S NOT JUST PROPERTY ACQUISITION AND EXACTLY.
CONSTRUCTION IS, I, I WAS ALWAYS, I'M A HUGE FAN OF THIS.
AND I, AND I THINK THE, THE MORE WE CAN COME UP WITH CREATIVE IDEAS LIKE THAT, THAT HELPS ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
BUT IF YOU CAN DO THAT ON A ONE-ON-ONE BASIS BASICALLY AND SHOW INDIVIDUALS.
'CAUSE I MEAN, LET'S FACE IT, WE'RE, WE'RE COMPETING WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, RIGHT? RIGHT.
I MEAN, IT'S COMING, BUT WE'RE COMPETING AGAINST EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO THE MORE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO LIKE THIS THAT SEPARATE US FROM SOME OF THE OTHERS, I THINK JUST CREATES A GOOD OVERALL VIBE, BASICALLY.
UM, AND THE PERSON THAT CONDUCTS THAT IS VERY SOPHISTICATED.
I MEAN, SHE, SHE IS, THIS IS LIKE, HEY, DOES ANYBODY WANNA DO THIS? I MEAN, SHE HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT THIS MANY, MANY TIMES.
SO TO GET SOMEONE LIKE THAT TO RUN THIS PROGRAM WAS REALLY IMPRESSIVE.
THE DEVELOPER STILL OWNS MCNAT IN FRONTIER.
THEY JUST, ANN THE CITY LIMITS
I THINK OUR PROPERTY IS TIED TO, UH,
AS Y'ALL HAVE TALKED TO BUSINESSES, HOW MUCH DELAY IS THERE WITH THE EXPANSION OF 3 77 AND 29 31 13 85? HOW MANY BUSINESSES DO Y'ALL TALK TO THAT ARE HOLDING BACK GOING, WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
UM, I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH ONE THAT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF 3 77 AND HOW IT WAS GONNA AFFECT THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY WERE GONNA LOSE QUITE A BIT FRENCH.
AND THEY WERE TRYING TO DECIDE DO WE STAY HERE? DO WE MOVE? THEY'RE LOOKING AT, THEY WERE LOOKING AT LAND IN OTHER PLACES.
UM, OF COURSE WE TOLD 'EM WE LOVE FOR THEM TO STAY HERE.
UM, BUT IT WILL AFFECT SOME BUSINESSES MORE THAN OTHERS IN TERMS OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS, THEIR SPACE THEY HAVE IN THE FRONT.
AND SOME OF THEM MAY HAVE TO CONSIDER MOVING, WHICH IS WHY I THINK HAVING SPACES BUILT AND ON THE GROUND READY TO GO HERE IS IMPORTANT.
UM, BECAUSE IF WE CAN KEEP 'EM IN AUBREY AND JUST MOVE THEM DOWN THE ROAD, UM, IT'S GONNA BE BETTER OTHER THAN INSTEAD OF GOING FURTHER DOWN OR UP NORTH OR SOUTH ON THE ROAD.
WELL, IT'S ALSO GONNA BE DIFFICULT FOR 'EM DURING CONSTRUCTION.
AND WE SH THAT MAY BE WHERE THAT GRANT PROGRAM GETS REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY'VE HAD TO DO THAT BEFORE AND CHRISTINE'S TALKED ABOUT IT AS WELL.
SO WE, WHEN WE'RE READY TO HELP, WE'VE BEEN TELLING THEM AS WE TALK TO THEM, HEY, WE CAN HELP YOU.
LET'S, WE'RE TRYING, WE GOTTA GET A, SOME OF THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN LOOK AT A NEW TYPE OF GRANT WE COULD CREATE THAT WOULD HELP SPECIFICALLY WITH THAT CONSTRUCTION INTERRUPTION.
UM, BUT SIGNAGE, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD HELP THEM JUST FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS TO KNOW HOW YOU CAN GET IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.
'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES CUSTOMERS WILL DRIVE RIGHT PAST IT IF IT LOOKS HARD.
UM, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT TCO IS MAKING IT EASY TO GET INTO THOSE DRIVEWAYS.
UM, SO IT IS DIFFICULT TO GO THROUGH CONSTRUCTION.
AND WE, WE NEED TO BE, FROM A CITY AND MDD STANDPOINT, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED TO HELP THOSE BUSINESSES WITH, WITH WHATEVER, UM, OBSTACLE THEY MIGHT FACE AND TRY TO HELP THEM FIND WAYS TO MANEUVER FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS AND KEEP THEIR DOORS OPEN.
BUT WE NEED TO START MAKING THOSE PLANS NOW.
NO, IT'S OUR, YEAH, IT'S HERE.
I CAN THINK OF TWO AUTOMOTIVE RELATED BUSINESSES ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE DEEPLY IMPACTED BY THE THREE SUBJECT LINE.
AND THEN WE'VE TALKED WITH THEM FOR SURE.
I KNOW ONE OF 'EM, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED WITH THEM.
I'VE TALKED, I'VE TALKED WITH THE ONE OF THEM THAT KIND OF HAS A PLAN.
THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S KIND OF BRACING FOR IT FROM MY CONVERSATIONS.
THEY'RE ASKING ABOUT TIMELINES.
UH, I DIRECT THEM TO THOSE PAGES THAT THE COUNTY HAS TO UPDATE THE SCHEDULES, BUT I ALSO REMIND 'EM IT'S ABOUT BUDGET.
UM, I'M ENCOURAGING THEM TO SIGN UP FOR THOSE EMAILS THAT THEY GET FROM OUR COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN STAY INFORMED.
BUT I DO THINK, UM, IT'S GONNA BE A SHOCKER FOR SOME OF 'EM ONCE IT DOES START.
AND THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO WITH OUR MONEY PER STATE STATUTE.
BUT I DO THINK COMMUNICATIONS, COMMUNICATIONS, COMMUNICATIONS IS GONNA BE KEY.
YEAH, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT SO WE'LL, WE'LL, YEAH, THAT'S GONNA BE FUN.
THE NOODLE ARM GUYS,
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BRANDED NOODLE ARM.GUYS, IF WE COULD GET 'EM ALL IN SYNC, THAT BE GREAT.
WHERE'S THE M BUDGET GO? THEY, THEY BOUGHT NOODLE PEOPLE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NOODLE PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S WHERE THAT CONVERSATION WENT.
RANDY, ANYTHING, ANYTHING ELSE? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? ANY, ANY INPUT? TIM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? HUH? THAT SOUNDS LIKE WE RAN OUTTA THINGS TO TALK ABOUT.
SO DO THE GOOGLE PEOPLE THING AGAIN.
YOU CAME, AARON'S PRETTY GOOD AT PRETTY, YOU'RE PRETTY GOOD AT THAT.
I'LL GUESS SO WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT SEVEN 12.