Jan 10, 2026 Special City Council

QUESTIONS.

SO THIS, THIS COMPLETES THE, THE NUMBER ONE, THE PURPOSE.

UM, SO WE'D LIKE TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY INPUT, UH, COMMENTS ABOUT WHETHER, UH, MULTI-USE OF WHETHER WE DO JUST OUR, OUR REC, UM, WHETHER WE HAVE TOURNAMENTS OR NOT.

THIS IS OPEN TO DISCUSSION.

I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK IT'S A COMPROMISE, RIGHT? UH, A OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE OUR LOCAL KIDS TO HAVE SOMEWHERE TO PLAY, BUT IT'S $25 MILLION COMPLEX.

WE HAVE TO GENERATE SOME MONEY IN ORDER TO HELP PAY FOR THIS THING.

YEAH, I'M NOT, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO TO HOSTING TOURNAMENTS FOR WHATEVER, BUT A YSA AND OUR KIDS HERE SHOULD ALWAYS COME FIRST.

THAT'S RIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND IN SPEAKING WITH MELISSA SPORTS, UM, THEY DO, UM, PUT CITIZENS FIRST.

UM, SO THEY'LL GET UM, KIND OF FIRST NOTICE OF FIELD RENTALS AND FIELD USAGE.

UM, AND THEN TOURNAMENTS WILL COME IN AFTER THE FACT AND, UM, THEY GET KIND OF ANYTHING THAT'S LEFT OVER.

SO THEY DO PRIORITIZE THEIR CITIZENS FIRST.

SO THE MELISSA COMPLEX HAS HOW MANY FIELDS? UM, IT'S FIVE BASEBALL AND WHAT WERE CURRENT SOCCER AND THEY JUST OPENED UP SEVEN ARTIFICIAL SOCCER.

SO WE'RE TALKING A DIFFERENT KIND OF FACILITY IN TERMS OF THE SOCCER.

AND THE BASEBALL COMPAR BOTH SIDES.

MM.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO DISCUSS.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET TOURNAMENTS TO COME TO CITIES WITH LIMITED NUMBER OF FIELDS.

IF YOU, MELISSA, ALSO, IN ADDITION TO THE, THE, THE FIVE FIELDS THAT THEY HAVE PLEX, THEY HAVE MORE FAIRLY CLOSE BY AND THEY COMBINE THOSE TWO TO GET LARGER TOURNAMENTS THERE.

EXACTLY.

SO THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA GET TOURNAMENTS IS TO RIDE ON SOLANA LITTLE EL DENTON OVERFLOW.

UM, I THINK KURT'S TALKED WITH PILOT POINT AS WELL.

SO, UH, PILOT POINT, ALAN GR, UM, SPORTS COMPLEX I THINK IS CURRENTLY FOUR, UH, NATURAL GRASS FIELDS.

THEY DO HAVE A MASTER PLAN IN PLACE TO, UM, UPDATE AND RENOVATE THOSE FIELDS.

UM, SO THEY WILL BY ADDING TWO ADDITIONAL FIELDS TO THEIR CORE EXISTING.

UM, SO THEY DO, THEY WILL HAVE A TOTAL OF SIX.

UM, BUT I DID SPEAK WITH THEIR, UM, PARKS DIRECTOR, UM, AND THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KIND OF HOSTING A JOINT TOURNAMENT, UM, IF IT EVER GETS TO THAT POINT.

SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY PARTNER WITH PILOT POINT ON TRYING TO BRING IN SOME OF THOSE LARGER TOURNAMENTS.

UM, AND THEN WE COULD SPLIT, UM, FIELD USAGE BETWEEN AUBREY AND PILOT POINT, UM, TO TRY TO DRAW SOME OF THOSE LARGER TOURNAMENT GROUPS.

AND I THINK WE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS HERE FIRST THREE.

UM, I DON'T SEE US BEING THE TOURNAMENT MECCA OF NORTH TEXAS.

NO, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US DO, BUT WE GOTTA USE EVERY OP OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO GENERATE SOME REVENUE TO.

SO IF WE PUT IT OUT THERE, SOMEBODY WILL USE IT.

UH, WELL AS IF THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENTS ITSELF TAKE IT, BUT IF NOT, THEN IT KINDA IS WHAT IT IS.

OR YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA FUND THAT OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND, I GUESS WOULD BE THE QUESTION IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT REVENUE STREAM.

WE BASE OURSELVES ON DIRECT KIDS AND YEAH, FILL THE HOLES, SECONDARY KIND OF THING.

I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE HAD THOUGHT AS WELL.

UM, YOU DO PRIORITIZE RECREATION AND YOUR COMMUNITY FIRST AND THEN FILL IN THE GAPS WHERE YOU CAN.

AND THAT'S WHY IN THAT MOCK BUDGET I DID KIND OF LIMIT IT TO FOUR TOURNAMENTS.

UM, ESPECIALLY DURING THE WINTERTIME, WE COULD HOST MORE WINTER TOURNAMENTS.

UM, THERE'S ALSO POTENTIAL FOR ADULT SOFTBALL TOURNAMENTS IN THE WINTERTIME.

UH, THOSE ARE INCREDIBLY POPULAR THESE DAYS.

UM, SO THAT WAY NOT ONLY ARE WE FOCUSING ON OUR YOUTH, BUT WE CAN FOCUS ON SOME OF OUR, UM, ADULT PROGRAMMING AS WELL.

SO WITH THE MOCK BUDGET WHERE OUR OPERATIONAL COSTS, OUR BUDGET, ANNUAL 600,000, UM, WITH THE, WITH ELIMINATING ANY TOURNAMENT AT ALL, I ASSUME WE WOULD NEED TO, UM, KIND OF SLASH THE ACTUAL COST OF THE, UH, SPORTS COMPLEX AND UH, LOWER THE OPERATIONAL COSTS.

UM,

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DO YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE TOURNAMENT REVENUE WOULD BE VERSUS THE, UH, LOCAL YEAH, SO, UM, TOURNAMENT REVENUE, IF WE DID FOUR OF THOSE WOULD BE, AGAIN, ROUGH NUMBERS, ABOUT 60,000.

UM, SO ON THE LOW END, 15,000 PER TOURNAMENT.

UM, SO IF WE TAKE THAT 60,000 OUT, UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS THAT A HUNDRED AND, UH, 160,000 REVENUE WITH JUST FIELD RENTALS AND THEN POTENTIAL RECREATION PROGRAMS. AND THEN IS THERE POTENTIAL TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF KIDS THROUGH THE, THE A YSA? UM, YOU GUYS, ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? I MEAN, AS WE GROW, OUR NUMBER OF PLAYERS IS GONNA CONSISTENTLY GROW ALMOST EVERY SEASON WE GET MORE PLAYERS.

WELL, AND FOR 15 YEARS WE'VE HAD KIDS LEAVING AUBREY TO GO PLAY SOMEPLACE ELSE.

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE FACILITIES.

WE HAVE TO TURN KIDS AWAY.

WHEN I WAS THERE A LOT, JUST 'CAUSE WE WERE MAXED OUT ON TEAM SIZES, TEAM MEMBERS, WE FEEL THAT MAYBE REGISTRATIONS WOULD ACTUALLY OFFSET ANY TOURNAMENT PLAY AS FAR AS REVENUE.

WELL, AND I DID BREAK THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.

UM, SO, UM, IF WE HAVE ABOUT 240 PARTICIPANTS IN BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL, UM, AND WE LOOK AT THAT AS ABOUT $50 PER PLAYER, UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $12,000, UH, PER LEAGUE.

UM, SO AGAIN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT, EXCUSE ME, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THREE SEASONS, SO A SPRING, SUMMER, AND FALL, UH, THAT'D BE ABOUT 36,000.

UM, AND THAT'S JUST REGISTRATION FEES.

WHAT'S THE CURRENT REGISTRATION FEE FOR A YA? DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY? 1 25 IS WHAT IT WAS FOR BASEBALL.

IS IT 1 65? YEAH, I DIDN'T HEAR ONE 60 AND 1 65.

AND THAT INCLUDES THE COST OF UNIFORM FORM.

I MEAN, I THINK MAYBE THERE'S SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE THERE.

I MEAN, I THINK A LOT OF KIDS DON'T PLAY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD 1 65.

WELL, THEY, THEY'VE GOT SOME KIND OF DEAL WHERE KIDS CAN'T AFFORD TO PLAY.

WE OFFER SCHOLARSHIPS AND STUFF.

YEAH, SCHOLARSHIP.

THAT'S WHERE I WAS LOOKING FOR, BUT COMPARED TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORING TOWNS, WE'RE ON THE LOWER END FOR REGISTRATION FEES.

THE SECOND TOPIC WAS A DISCUSSION OF ADDITIONAL DESIRED AMENITIES.

THAT MAY CHANGE THINGS A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR NUMBERS.

ABSOLUTELY SAID I THAT I SURE.

A LITTLE OVER TRIPLE THE NUMBER YOU HAD.

YEAH, I, I WAS BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE.

, YOU GUYS, I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING FAR THE FIRST MAYOR, NOT SURE, UM, IF WE WANT TO ACTUALLY HAVE ACTION, UM, BUT WE DO NEED SOME TYPE OF DIRECTION TO HELP WESTWOOD, UM, MOVE FORWARD FROM THE, THE CONCEPTS.

AND THEY WILL BE SHOWING, SHOWING YOU AGAIN, THE CONCEPTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT COUNCIL.

SO WE COULD WAIT TILL AFTER THE PRESENTATION, BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION.

UM, ANY LAST QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? ALRIGHT.

UM, SO

[2. Parks and Recreation Board general park discussion.]

UM, SO IN PREPARATION FOR TODAY'S MEETING, WE DID PUT A, UH, PUT A SURVEY OUT TO THE COMMUNITY JUST TO GATHER A LITTLE BIT OF RESULTS ON KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

UM, SO IN THE SURVEY THEY DID PROVIDE, UM, A BUNCH OF WRITE-IN INFORMATION AS FAR AS KIND OF WHAT THEY WANNA SEE.

SO THINGS THAT, UM, POPPED OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, THAN MOST WAS A FULL-SIZED WALKING TRACK AROUND FOOTBALL AND SOCCER FIELDS, UM, WALKING TRAILS, SHADE STRUCTURES, BATHROOMS, PLAYGROUNDS, UH, SCOREBOARDS AND SCREENS, SAND VOLLEYBALL, ALL INCLUSIVE ACTIVITIES FOR IN, UH, INDIVIDUALS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, UH, LIGHTING SYSTEMS, COMFORTABLE SEATING, WARMUP AREAS AND PICNIC, UH, PICNIC

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AREAS.

UM, SO THESE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT WE DID KIND OF TOUCH ON WITH THE DESIGN.

UM, BUT THESE ARE THE MOST REOCCURRING THEMES THAT WE'VE SEEN.

SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE SHADE STRUCTURES, BATHROOMS, AND PLAYGROUNDS.

I, AGAIN, I THINK WE ALL KNEW THAT GOING IN AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IN THE DESIGN.

UM, AND AGAIN, THROUGH OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN, UM, WITH THE SURVEY THAT HAPPENED BEFORE THAT, UH, TRAILS, PLAYGROUNDS AND SPORTS COMPLEX WERE THE TOP THREE POLLING ITEMS. UM, SO AGAIN, WITH THIS ONE SPORTS COMPLEX, WE CAN KIND OF HIT ON THOSE TOP THREE.

UM, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ALSO POPPED UP WAS, UM, INDOOR VOLLEYBALL, RECREATION, UH, A RECREATION CENTER AND JUST SOME OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT WE CAN'T REALLY WORK THROUGH WITH THIS SPORTS COMPLEX.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOTTA KIND OF LOOK FORWARD IN OUR MASTER PLAN AND, UH, START TO PLAN IN THE NEXT COMING YEARS AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS SPORTS COMPLEX.

UH, SO ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION OVER DESIRED AMENITIES? YEAH, LET'S STICK TO THE SPORTS COMPLEX FIRST.

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, AND AGAIN, THE, THE REASON I BRING IT UP IS, UM, A-A-Y-S-A HAD REACHED OUT AND THEY SAID THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED A TRACK PROGRAM.

UM, AND SO THAT IS ONE AREA OF CONCERN THAT THEY HAVE IS THEY JUST DON'T HAVE AN AREA FOR, UH, PRACTICING WITH TRACK.

AND, UM, I KNOW THAT PUTTING A TRACK AROUND A FOOTBALL FIELD IS RELATIVELY EASY, BUT AGAIN, THAT CAN INCREASE OUR COST PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY WITH THE TYPE OF, UM, MATERIAL THAT THEY'D HAVE TO PUT DOWN FOR THAT.

SO, UM, JUST A A POINT TO THINK ABOUT IS THE, IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT NOT LETTING USE THE, THE TRACK AROUND THE OLD FOOTBALL FIELD? I BELIEVE THEY ARE.

UM, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT TRACK IS A LITTLE BIT OLDER AND NOT CLAY.

SMALL, UM, BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS.

UM, SO WITH THOSE TYPES OF TRACKS, THEY'RE WORSE FOR YOUR JOINTS.

THEY'RE WORSE FOR LIKE KIDS.

UM, THAT ACTUALLY, IF I'M REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT CAN KIND OF STUNT SOME OF THEIR GROWTH JUST BECAUSE OF HOW HARD IT IS TO RUN ON.

UM, SO IT'S REALLY NOT GREAT FOR 'EM TO RUN ON THOSE TYPES OF TRACKS.

THEY REALLY WANT THAT RUBBER SOFT LANDING TRACK, ESPECIALLY WHENEVER YOU'RE A LONG DISTANCE RUNNER.

DON'T KNOW HOW WE OLD FOLKS MADE IT .

THAT'S WHY WE ALL HURT.

THEY NEEDS, UH, MCNABB MIDDLE SCHOOL TRACK, RIGHT? YEAH.

UM, AN EVALUATION OF THE FIELD TYPES AND THE LAYOUTS.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE TOUCHED ON POINT NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS WHAT DO WE WANT TO BE, DO WE WANT TO DO RECREATION? DO WE WANT TO DO TOURNAMENTS OR A MULTIPURPOSE? UM, SO WITH THE FIELD, UH, LAYOUTS AND EVERYTHING, WE JUST KIND OF WANT TO ESTABLISH WHERE WE WANT TO GO AND MOVE FORWARD.

UM, SO AGAIN, THROUGH THAT SURVEY THAT WE SENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, WE SAW THAT SOCCER AND BASEBALL EMERGED AS OUR MOST FREQUENT IDENTIFIED SPORTS.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, OUR LARGEST AGE GROUP THIS TIME IS NINE TO 11.

UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE DO HAVE, UH, QUITE A BIT OF DIFFERENT SPORTS, UH, THROWN IN HERE.

SO BASEBALL, SOCCER, SOFTBALL, FOOTBALL, WERE, UH, THE HIGHEST IDENTIFIED, UM, FOLLOWING BY BASKETBALL, UH, VOLLEYBALL, AND OF COURSE PICKLEBALL.

AND I'LL LET WESTWOOD TAKE IT FROM HERE.

GOOD MORNING COUNSEL, PARK BOARD AND CITY STAFF.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

UM, I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN THIS, THESE CONCEPTS BEFORE AND, UH, THESE ARE DEFINITELY SOME PROGRAM ELEMENTS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH WITH CITY STAFF AND, AND THE PARK.

UM, I'LL GO THROUGH IT BRIEFLY.

UM, AGAIN, THE CONFIGURATION OF THESE DIFFER PER CONCEPT, BUT THESE, UM, CONCEPT ONE, UM, YOU'LL SEE WE'VE GOT THE, THE FOURPLEX WITH THE CENTRAL, UM, CONCESSION STAND IN THE MIDDLE WITH OUR PLAYGROUND WITH ALL OF IT FENCED IN.

WE'VE GOT OUR PARKING LOT HERE WITH ABOUT 420.

AND THE SOCCER FIELD ON THE NORTH END THAT ACCOMMODATE A LARGE, THE LARGE FIELD AND ALSO TWO SMALL, UM, IF REQUIRED.

AND THEN ONE SMALLER ONE.

THIS ONE HAS THE SAME AMOUNT OF PROGRAM ELEMENTS, BUT JUST A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION.

WE'VE MOVED THE CONCESSION ON THE NORTH END ON THE FIELD THERE WITH THE, WITH THE PLAYGROUND.

THIS ADDS ADDITIONAL SMALL, UH, SOCCER FIELDS ON THE NORTH END AND SPLITTING THE PARKING LOT AND THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING ON THE SOUTH.

THIS AGAIN, CHANGES THE CONFIGURATION WITH, UM, WITH MORE OF THE TWO LARGE AND TWO

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WITH THE MAINTENANCE ON THE SOUTH, WE'VE ELIMINATED ONE OF THE RESTROOMS IN THE NORTH, BUT HAVING THE CONCESSION ON THE CENTER, I'M SORRY, THIS ONE HAS THE ONE ON THE RIGHT ON THE NORTH END.

UM, THIS DOES HAVE A PRACTICE FIELD ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THIS ELIMINATES THE LARGE SOCCER AND THEN JUST HAS TWO SMALL MID-SIZE SOCCER FIELDS.

AND THEN AFTER TALKING THROUGH WITH THE PARK BOARD AND THEN DISCUSSING IT WITH Y'ALL ON COUNCIL, WE HAD TALKED THROUGH THEM HAVING PREFERRING OPTION TWO WITH A MODIFICATION OF MOVING V CONCESSION INTO THE MIDDLE SECTION, HAVING THE TWO LARGE FIELDS ON THE WEST SIDE AND THE TWO SMALLER ON THE EAST, BUT THEN CONSOLIDATING THE CONCESSION ON IN THE MIDDLE AND THE PLAY AREA.

AND THEN ALSO ADDING A SMALLER CONCESSION ON THE NORTH END.

UM, AND ALSO A TRUCK STOP ON THE NORTH SIDE SIDE THERE.

NOW I KNOW WE HAD TALKED THROUGH THESE FIELD LAYOUTS.

UM, THESE ARE BASED OFF OF, AGAIN, THE SURVEY AND THEN THIS ALIGNS WITH THE PROGRAM ELEMENTS WITH MASTER PLAN.

AND UM, I KNOW WE'VE, YOU JUST DISCUSSED THAT WE WON'T TALK THROUGH ANY OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT SUGGESTED, SO WE'LL SKIP THROUGH THIS.

AND SO THIS, AT THIS TIME, WE CAN DISCUSS THROUGH WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD LIKE TO USE SYNTHETIC OR UM, NATURAL GRASS.

BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THAT, UM, CAN WE DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE, UM, DIFFERENT CONCEPTS ON WHAT OUR MINIMUM NEEDS ARE AS FAR AS NUMBER OF FIELDS, UM, FOR PRACTICE VERSUS PLAY VERSUS FOOTBALL, SOCCER? UM, 'CAUSE EACH OF THE CONCEPTS WEREN'T ACTUALLY THE SAME, RIGHT? WE, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT NUMBER OF FIELDS GO BACK, RIGHT? I I MEAN, I, I STILL LEAN TOWARDS TWO OR FOUR.

LIKE FOUR, SAME.

YEP, SAME TWO OR FOUR.

YOU SAID 2 0 4.

SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA, THE SOCCER FIELD, YOU'RE NOT GONNA LEAVE AS ONE LARGE SOCCER FIELD.

IT'LL BE BROKEN UP INTO A LOT OF LITTLE SOCCER FIELDS TYPICALLY.

BUT THE LARGE FIELD ALLOWS FOR FOOTBALL PLAY ALSO.

RIGHT? IT GIVES YOU THIS SPACE FOR IT.

UM, YOU HAVE SOME COMPETING TONS OF YEAR AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, SOCCER'S STILL PLAYING WHEN FOOTBALL'S PLAYING.

SO YOU HAVE TO MOVE GOALS OUT OF THE WAY.

THAT'S TYPICALLY THAT WOULD STAY AS ONE LARGE FIELD.

SO IT WOULDN'T BE USED BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH KIDS IN THE 14 U AND 16 U AGE RANGES TO NEED A FULL-SIZE FIELD.

OUR POPULATION IS YOUNGER, SO YOU'RE GONNA NEED THE SMALLER FIELDS.

SO YOU'RE GONNA NEED THE EIGHT U AND THE 10 U AND THE SIX U FIELDS, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT WAS MEANT FOR PRACTICE.

SO WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PLAY? YOU TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL, SOCCER, SOCCER, SOCCER.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING SOCCER.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR INPUT.

USUALLY THESE ARE OUR GAME FIELDS THAT I'M ASSUMING NOW A LOT OF PLACES USE GAME FIELDS AS PRACTICE FIELDS ALSO.

SO, BUT TO DO THAT, YOU'VE GOTTA BREAK THAT LARGE FIELD UP INTO SMALL PIECES.

AND THAT'S, AND WE NEED YOUR FEEDBACK.

IF YOU WANT THESE TO BE ALL SMALL SOCCER FIELDS, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

WELL, FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT, YOU LAY IT OUT AS A LARGE OPEN AREA.

MULTIPURPOSE SOCCER FIELD, FOOTBALL FIELD.

IN THE MAINTENANCE SIDE AND THE APPLICATION SIDE, WE BREAK IT UP INTO SMALL SECTIONS THAT ARE USABLE SPACE.

WELL, I KNOW PILOT POINT, THEY, UH, THEY USE THE SIDE OF THE PARK AND THEY JUST, THEY JUST CHALK IT OFF.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT A, THEY'VE GOT, THEY CHALK IT OFF WITH GOALS ON IT.

THEY FOUND THE OPEN FLAT SPACE.

THAT'S IT.

AND ESPECIALLY FOR THE BABIES.

'CAUSE THE FIELD DOESN'T NEED TO BE THAT BIG, RIGHT? YEAH.

FOUR OR EIGHT SOCCER FIELDS THAT ARE USABLE SPACE.

SO WE WOULD TAKE A, A FULL SIZE REGULATION SOCCER FIELD AND BREAK THAT DOWN INTO, DEPENDING ON AGE GROUPS, EITHER

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WE KEPT ONE, WE HAD THREE FULL SIZE SOCCER FIELDS.

MY LAST PART, UM, OUT OF THAT WE CREATED 12 FIELDS AND WE KEPT ONE OF THE LARGE FIELD, ONE FIELD LARGE FOR THE FEW PEOPLE THAT USED IT.

WHAT WE FOUND WAS IT BECAME A PROBLEM BECAUSE ON SUNDAY AFTERNOONS, PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T SIGNED UP FOR ANY LEAGUES WERE SHOWING UP TO PLAY SOCCER ON THAT FIELD.

SO WE ENDED UP HAVING TO HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OUT THERE.

RUNNING EVERYBODY OFF ALL THE TIME BECOMES AN ISSUE FOR PD TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

SO I DON'T SEE NEEDING A FULL SIZE SOCCER FIELD, I NEED THE FULL-SIZE SOCCER FIELD SPACE.

HMM.

YOU'RE JUST SAYING MAKE A BIG FLAT RECTANGLE.

SO BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE, WE'LL JUST ERASE THE LINES OFF THE RECTANGLE AND RIGHT.

CALL IT GOOD.

I DON'T THINK, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND, AND WE'RE REALLY JUST SHOWING WHAT IS POSSIBLE.

WAIT, THE OPTIONS ARE RIGHT.

AND IF WE CAN, IF WE NEED TO LEAVE IT OFF AND JUST CALL IT MULTI-USE SPACE, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY AND WOULD THOSE THREE, THE THREE SMALLER PIECES BE THE SAME WAY? THE THREE, UH, THE THREE SMALLER? YEAH.

SO, AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU, I, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE GONNA STRUGGLE WITH HERE IS WE HAVE THESE FIELDS RUNNING EAST, WEST.

AND SO FIRST GAME IN THE MORNING, THAT EIGHT O'CLOCK GAME IN THE MORNING, AS YOU'RE RUNNING TO THE EAST, YOU'RE LOOKING INTO THE SUN.

AND SO THEY REALLY NEED TO RUN NORTH SOUTH.

AND WE CAN DO THAT AND INTERNALLY BY HOW WE LAY THE FIELDS UP.

JUST LEAVE ME A MULTIPURPOSE OPEN SPACE THAT'S FLAT WITH A 2% GRADE AND TIFF TOUGH TURF ON IT AND IRRIGATION AND LIGHTS.

SO I WANNA CONFIRM, UM, FOR SOCCER AT THIS LOCATION, WE WANT IT TO BE GAME ONLY OR WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO OFFER PRACTICE FIELDS AS WELL.

YOU CAN STILL USE IT AS PRACTICE SPACE AND IT WHERE'S YOUR FIELD? IT, IT INCREASES YOUR MAINTENANCE, YOU'VE GOTTA AERATE MORE AND YOU'VE GOTTA DO SOME OTHER THINGS.

BUT YOU CAN USE IT AS MULTIPURPOSE PRACTICE AND GAME.

SO WHETHER WE CALL IT NUMBER OF FIELDS OR WHETHER WE CALL IT SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHAT DO WE FEEL OUR NEED IS FOR SOCCER AT THIS LOCATION? WELL, YOU JUST TOLD ME THAT SOCCER WAS THE NUMBER TWO RESPONSES ON, SO WE KNOW AS MUCH SOCCER SPACE AS WE CAN GET, RIGHT? YEAH.

HOW MANY, HOW MANY TEAMS DO WE HAVE AT A YA RIGHT NOW? WE WERE, I MEAN IT WAS GROWING FAST THAN, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT SOCCER HAS A HIGHER ENROLLMENT THAN BASEBALL IN SOFTBALL.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS 50 50 SOCCER BASEBALL OR, BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP US DETERMINE WHETHER WE NEED TWO FIELDS FOR BASEBALL OR FOUR.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE ORIGINALLY WERE GOING WITH THE QUADPLEX, BUT IF, IF THAT'S CHANGING, WE JUST NEED TO KNOW.

NO, I I THE CONCEPT FOUR, THE ONE THAT'S ON THE SCREEN IS GREAT.

OKAY, THAT'S NUMBER FOUR.

WHAT WAS TWO? TWO IS THE ONE WHERE THE PLAYGROUND WAS THE GROUND, THE BACK.

OH, THAT'S GOING NORTH END.

AND WE CAN ALL THAT GREEN SPACE IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO SOCCER FIELDS WE CAN REMOVE.

AND SO THAT WHOLE THING CAN EXPAND SO THAT YOU'VE GOT A LOT MORE OPEN SPACE.

THE ONLY THING YOU GOTTA WATCH IS DRAINAGE AND MAKING SURE YOU CAN GET WATER OFF THE FIELD.

BECAUSE WE CAN MOVE ALL OF A YSA SOCCER TO A YSA FIELDS.

THAT'D BE AWESOME.

OR CITY FIELDS.

THAT'D BE AWESOME.

IS EVERYONE GOOD WITH THE TWO BIG TWO SMALL BASEBALL AS WELL? I, I PREFER THAT ROUTE.

I'M NOT, I KNOW YOU DON'T.

I I LIKE THE THREE SMALL FIELDS BECAUSE THEY GET UTILIZED MORE.

UM, I JUST LIKE THE SCALABILITY OF IT.

'CAUSE WE CAN MAKE IT SMALLER, BUT WE CAN'T MAKE IT SMALL FIELD BIGGER.

UM, YEAH.

WELL, WOULD THERE BE ANY CARRYOVER FROM THE, FROM THE SCHOOL TO YOU UTILIZE FIELDS IF THEY HAD A BASEBALL OR SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT? WELL, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA, I, I'M NOT TRYING TO SPEAK OUTTA TURN, BUT I THINK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING RID OF THE ONE AT BROCKETT ONCE WE DO THIS.

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YES, THEY'RE GONNA KILL THAT.

SO THEY ARE, THEY'RE PROBABLY THIS.

THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

IF, YOU KNOW, IF THE CITY, IF THE SCHOOL HAS THE TOURNAMENT AND THEY BROCK WANNA UTILIZE MORE FIELDS, AT LEAST HAVING THEM PROSPER.

WILEY, WHEN I WAS THERE, YOU PROBABLY DID A LITTLE, A LITTLE.

IM ANOTHER SOURCE OF REVENUE.

SOMETHING MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THAT FENCE THAT CAN BE MOVED IN AND OUT.

ON THE MELISSA SIDE, THE BIG FIELDS SCHEDULED FIRST OVER THE SMALL FIELDS, AT LEAST IN THEIR EXPERIENCE.

CAN YOU REPEAT THAT INTO A MIC? THE BIG FIELDS WERE SCHEDULED FIRST BEFORE THE SMALL FIELDS AND MELISSA.

SO IN MY EXPERIENCE IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

IT'S THE SMALL FIELDS THAT GET THE, WE ALWAYS HAD MORE COMPETITION FOR THE SMALLER FIELDS.

UH, MELISSA STATED THAT AT LEAST IN THEIR REGION IS THEY HAD LESS BIG FIELDS IN THE AREA TO RENT OUT.

SO THEY WITTED THEM.

IT MAY BE DIFFERENT IN THIS REGION, BUT THAT'S THEIR EXPERIENCE.

I KNOW CORINTH, SINCE WE BUILT THAT PARK, CORINTH ADDED SMALL FIELDS.

UM, THEY ADDED THREE SMALL FIELDS IN ONE LARGE FIELD.

THEY CONVERTED THEIR FOOTBALL FIELDS TO DOG PARK, , YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT SCALABILITY.

AND GROWTH WISE, I STILL LIKE THIS TWO BIG FIELDS.

I MEAN, IN THE FUTURE, IF WE DECIDE TO PUT OTHER PLAYING FIELDS ON OTHER PARKS, WE CAN FOCUS ON THE SMALL FIELDS AT THAT TIME.

IT MAKES THE FUTURE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER.

BUT, UM, I THINK AT THIS TIME WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE TWO AND TWO.

I'M NOT GONNA LOSE ANY SLEEPOVER GOING WITH TWO LARGE FIELDS, THE TWO AND TWO.

AND AS FAR AS THE FIELD TYPE TURF TYPE, I'M A NATURAL GRASS GUY.

, I LIKE THE PLAYABILITY OF NATURAL GRASS, BUT I LIKE THE HOW FAST TURF RECOVERS AND THE EVENT OF RAIN.

AND WITH TEXAS, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET FROM WEEKEND TO WEEKEND.

AND THAT'S REVENUE.

WE, WE DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF YOU WANT US TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN.

UH, FOR THE PARK BOARD, SINCE THEY WEREN'T AT THE COUNCIL MEETING.

AND BASED ON YOUR COMMENT THERE, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED DOING THE ARTIFICIAL INFIELD AND NATURAL GRASS OUTFIELDS? I THOUGHT THAT WAS WHERE WE WERE GOING ORIGINALLY.

WERE WERE WE TALKING ORIGINALLY WOULD BE TURF EVERYWHERE? YEP.

OH, OKAY.

I I WAS EX I WAS JUST ASSUMING THAT IT WAS, I I'VE LOOKED AT THAT.

IS THERE ANY CONCERN ON THE TRANSITION FROM THE INFIELD TO THE OUTFIELD? ANY KIND OF, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM INJURY OR, OR PLAYING SURFACES DIFFERENCES? THERE IT IS AN INCREASED MAINTENANCE ISSUE.

YOU, YOU REALLY HAVE TO WATCH IT.

YOU, YOU REALLY HAVE TO, TO THE MAINTENANCE CREWS REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS THEN TO MAKE SURE THAT TRANSITION SMOOTH AND EVEN.

BUT, UM, YOU CAN MAKE IT WORK.

THE MULTI-USE, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT, UM, HAVE LONGER DURABILITY, LIKE THINGS THAT YOU USE IN YOUR SOCCER, FOOTBALL, AND YOUR PLAYGROUNDS.

YEAH, WE CAN GO THROUGH THE, THE REST OF OUR PRESENTATION.

UM, THESE ARE JUST A FEW SUMMARY ITEMS THAT WE, UH, EXPERIENCE ON NATURAL VERSUS ARTIFICIAL.

UM, THE REGULAR MOWING, THE EDGING, UM, IRRIGATION, FERTILIZING AND AERATION IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THE ARTIFICIAL.

UM, THERE'S DEFINITELY DEBRIS REMOVAL REQUIRED ON BOTH.

UM, THERE'S BRUSHING THAT'S REQUIRED ON THE ARTIFICIAL, BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO NEGATE SOME OF THAT.

UM, AND THEN DEFINITELY SOME SEASONAL CLOSURES FOR THE NATURAL.

UM, THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME THINGS THAT HAVE IMPROVED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

UM, FOR THE UM, TURF, THERE'S SOME INFILL AND SOME FIBER TECHNOLOGY THAT'S INCREASED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

UM, THESE ARE THE LEVELS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF TURF FOR YOUR PEDESTRIAN.

ONE, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU SEE EVERYWHERE IN LIKE YOUR BACKYARD, YOUR PLAZAS.

THESE ARE JUST YOUR NICE DECORATIVE, UM, TURF, THE PLAYGROUND.

THESE ARE YOUR NEXT LEVEL.

UM, HAS MORE OF YOUR INFO AND LIGHT, UM, SHOCK ABSORBERS.

SO YOU'VE GOT MORE ATTRACTION ON THIS ONE.

YOUR NEXT LEVEL.

AND THESE ARE YOUR MORE TOUGHER, DURABLE, UM, TURF.

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UM, AND AND NATURALLY THE, THE HIGHEST, UM, LEVEL OF TURF IS THE ONES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY USED FOR FOR BASEBALL.

SO QUESTION ON THE ARTIFICIAL TURF, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE BASEBALL FIELDS, NOT THE SOCCER FIELDS.

CORRECT.

AND EVERY OPTION SOCCER IS GOING TO BE NATURAL SOD, IT WOULD JUST BE DISCUSSION ON ARTIFICIAL HYBRID OF THE TWO OR SOD FOR THE BASEBALL FIELDS.

AND THERE CAN BE A COMBINATION AS WELL.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HALF AND BUILD, HALF OUTFIELD IS ALSO A POSSIBILITY OF TWO AND TWO.

SO YOU DO TWO ARTIFICIAL, TWO NATURAL AS WELL IS AN OPTION.

SO IT'S WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT.

THERE'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF STAFFING.

UM, STAFFING WILL BE HIGHER FOR ART OR UH, REAL SIDE FIELDS.

ARTIFICIAL WILL HAVE SLIGHTLY LESS IN THE MOST CASES.

UM, THERE WILL BE AN INITIAL COST FOR THE ARTIFICIAL AS YOU HAVE TO BUY EQUIPMENT THAT'S SPECIALIZED FOR BROOMING AND BRUSHING AND SANITIZING IT.

THE BROOMING HAPPENS USUALLY ONCE A WEEK.

WE HAVE TO BUY EQUIPMENT FOR NATURAL GRASS TOO.

SO YES, KIND OF A WASH THERE.

USUALLY THE STUFF YOU USE A MOWER, YOU HAVE AN ATTACHMENT FOR THE ARTIFICIAL YOU PULL BEHIND.

SO IT'S, YOU BUY THE EQUIPMENT AND THEN YOU HAVE IT TACKED ONTO THE END.

UM, THE COST PER YEAR, AS YOU CAN SEE IS MORE OBVIOUSLY THE CO THE INITIAL COST OF THE ARTIFICIAL IS MORE AND YOU'LL HAVE TO REPLACE THAT ARTIFICIAL EVERY EIGHT TO 10 YEARS.

UM, WITH THAT, WITH THE ARTIFICIAL, YOU'LL HAVE TO REPLACE UH, HEAVY USE AREAS ON THE FIELD.

SO THAT'D BE AROUND HOME PLATE PICTURES, MOUND FIRST BASE AND THEN SECOND BASE SLIDING.

THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE THEY CHOP OUT A CHUNK.

THEY STITCH IN THE NEW PIECE, THEY WELD IT, YOU WON'T NOTICE A DIFFERENCE.

BUT THAT'S USUALLY AROUND 10 KA YEAR AND THEY JUST HAVE TO DO THAT EVERY YEAR ON ARTIFICIAL WHILE ON THE OTHER SIDE, NATURAL GRASS YOU HAVE TO IRRIGATE.

SO THERE'S THE COST OF WATER AND WITH GROWING WATER RESTRICTIONS THAT MAY CHANGE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

UM, IN TERMS OF UM, MAINTENANCE AND MOWING, YOU HAVE TO MOW IT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE TIMES A WEEK, LESS SO IN THE WINTER.

YOU GOTTA WATER THE CRAP OUT OF IT IN THE SUMMER 'CAUSE IT WILL SOAK IT UP.

AND THEN THE BIGGEST THING IS YOU GOTTA AIR RATE AND NITRO IT.

AND UH, THAT LETS, IT MAKES IT LESS PLAYABLE IN SOME SEASONS WHEN YOU'RE HAVING TO DO A LOT OF MAINTENANCE.

BUT IT'S ALSO IN THE SUMMER WHEN IT'S LESS PLAYABLE, WHICH IS WHEN LESS PEOPLE ARE PLAYING AS WELL.

SO THE SPRING AND THE FALL WILL BE THE PRIMETIME.

WELL I ASK THIS 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW, BUT THE, THE ARTIFICIAL TURF INFIELD THAT'S REPLACED DIRT THAT EVERYBODY USED TO PLAY ON YEARS AGO, DOES THAT HAVE A HIGHER POSSIBILITY OF INJURY TO THE KIDS? SOME CLAIM IT DOES, ESPECIALLY THE OLDER STUFF DOES.

UM, WHAT TRISH WENT OVER A COUPLE SLIDES BACK WAS IT HAS KIND OF PADS BUILT UP UNDERNEATH.

UM, IT HAS GONE A LONG WAY.

I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT'S, IF YOU FALL ON GRASS, IT'S GONNA HURT LESS 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA DENT IN THE GRASS WHILE WITH THE TURF YOU'LL BOUNCE MORE AND THERE'S ALWAYS A LITTLE MORE INJURY WHEN YOU AREN'T BOUNCING RATHER THAN DENTING IN THE GRASS.

I'M TALKING ABOUT SLIDING.

YEAH, SLIDING.

YOU'LL GET A LITTLE BIT OF TURF BURNS, BUT I MEAN THOSE KIDS ARE IN HIGH SOCKS AND BASEBALL PANTS.

UM, YOU KNOW, ON GRASS TOO, YOU'LL CATCH SOMETHING OR YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY A KID FALLS RIGHT BEFORE YOU D IT IN AND YOU SLIDE AND YOU HIT THAT DIVOT THAT THEY JUST MADE.

THERE'S INJURY PRONE ON THAT.

BUT THEN IN TERMS OF SLIDING INTO ARTIFICIAL POSSIBLE FRICTION BURN, NOT IF YOU PLAY ON TWO SURFACES A LOT TOO, YOU'RE NOT GONNA JUDGE IT DIFFERENTLY.

SO YOU MAY HAVE TO START SLIDING SOONER.

FOOTBALL'S USUALLY KNEES.

OR LATER.

SO YOU MAY HIT YOUR HEEL RIGHT ON THAT BASE.

'CAUSE YOU'RE USED TO SLIDING IN ON SOCK.

I WAS GONNA SAY WHEN I WAS ATHLETIC TRAINER, THAT WAS THE USUAL INJURY I SAW WAS THEM SLIDING AND HITTING THE BASE WRONG.

'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO SLIDE ON TURF.

WAS IT MAINLY ANKLES OR KNEES? ANKLES, YEAH.

BUT BASEBALL EVEN FOR THE YOUNGER KIDS, THE NINE, NO, NO YOUNGER.

IT WAS HIGH SCHOOL, HIGHER SCHOOL, WHICH IS TARGET.

WE'RE NOT REALLY FOCUSED ON ABOUT TARGET THAT HIGH SCHOOLERS WE'RE FOCUSED ON.

AND THAT'S DEFINITELY AN OLDER INJURY NOWADAYS.

THEY'RE USED TO PLAYING ON BOTH INJURIES.

BACK IN THE DAY, PLAYING ARTIFICIAL WAS A RARITY, SO THEY HAD NO IDEA HOW TO SLIDE ON IT.

UM, I THINK THAT'S ALSO A PLAYER REQUIREMENT TOO.

WE KNOW IF WE DO END WITH THE TURF FIELDS, WE CAN JUST REQUIRE THE PLAYERS TO WEAR KNEEHIGH SOCKS AND YEAH.

TO JUST TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.

DOES THE HIGH SCHOOL, THEY JUST GET LONG PANTS ON BASICALLY.

THERE, THERE IS A CONSIDERATION TOO, WHEN YOU HAVE THE MIXED, THE THE INFIELD AND THE OUTFIELD, IT DOES CONFUSE THE KIDS WITH THEIR SHOES.

THE MIX ISN'T ALWAYS A GREAT OPTION EITHER FOR THAT CASE.

IT'S, IT'S HARD TO GET A SHOE THAT WORKS FOR BOTH TOO.

UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO TO DO

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DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT, WHAT IS THE SCHOOL'S, UH, HIGH SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL FIELDS? ARE THEY TURF OR ARE THEY GRASS? WELL, THE ONES AT THE HIGH SCHOOL WERE TURF.

TURF.

THEY'RE ALL INFIELD AND ALL.

YEP.

AND THERE'S NO MIDDLE SCHOOL FIELDS, BUT THE ONES THAT AT THE ELEMENTARY AND ADMIN ARE DIRT AND GRASS.

AND JUST TO TOUCH BASE ON WHAT WADE HAD SAID, UM, YEAH, WE FIRST ONE WAS WITH ARTIFICIAL TURF, YOU WANT TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE WEARING CORRECT SHOES.

UM, THAT MEANS NO METAL SPIKES, THEY'VE GOTTA BE RUBBER CLEATS OR JUST SPECIFIC TURF SHOES.

UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES IS METAL SPIKES CAN DAMAGE YOUR ARTIFICIAL TURF.

BUT ADDITIONALLY THAT WILL, UH, LEAD TO MORE INJURY AS FAR AS LIKE LIGAMENT ISSUES.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE FOOTBALL PLAYERS GETTING HURT SO MUCH IS BECAUSE THEY ARE CUTTING LEFT AND RIGHT AND YOU DON'T SEE THAT AS MUCH IN BASEBALL.

UM, SO IT'S VITAL THAT THEY WEAR THEIR CORRECT SHOES.

UM, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE TO ENFORCE, UM, IF OUR OFFICIAL TURF IS CHOSEN THAT THEY ARE WEARING THE PROPER FOOTWEAR.

UM, YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE, YOU DON'T WANT METAL SPIKES ON NATURAL GRASS EITHER, TRUST ME.

NO, YOU DON'T.

YOU DON'T.

I I'VE GOT MANY SCARS TO SHOW YOU WHY, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S JUST VITALLY IMPORTANT THAT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE PICKING TURF, THE SHOES AND THE FOOTWEAR HAVE TO BE WHAT'S ALLOWED, AT LEAST WITH ARTIFICIAL OR WITH, UH, NATURAL GRASS.

YEAH, YOU CAN DO METAL SPIKES, BUT AGAIN, THE FOOTWEAR'S NOT AS VITAL AS IT WOULD BE ON THERE.

I'M ASSUMING WE CAN COMBAT THAT WITH A LOT OF SIGNAGE AND DATA ON THE SIGNS THAT SAY, HEY, HIGHER INCREASE IN INJURY AND WE JUST DON'T WANT METAL SPIKES.

BUT WHO, WHO ENFORCE WHO'S THE RULES ENFORCER? IS THAT THE, THE, THE UMPIRE? IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE CITY OF ARBERY, TYPICALLY IT'S THE UMPIRES CPIS.

UM, OKAY.

SO THERE'S SOMEBODY ON THE FIELD THAT'S MONITORING IT.

YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE TO SET, THEY'LL, THEY'LL INSPECT SHOES.

SO IF THEY HAVE METAL SPIKES, UM, IT'S HARD TO SAY THEY'LL BE OBJECTED, BUT THEY WON'T BE ALLOWED TO PLAY UNLESS THEY ARE WEARING THE PROPER FOOTWEAR.

AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, IF THEY ARE USING THINGS THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED ON YOUR ARTIFICIAL TURF, FOR INSTANCE, SUNFLOWER SEEDS IS A BIG ONE.

UM, UMPIRES ARE ENFORCING THAT AND HAVE THE POWER TO REMOVE THAT KIT FROM THE GAME.

SO YOUR UMPIRES ARE REALLY THE ONES THAT WOULD BE ENFORCING THESE RULES.

AND THESE SIGNS ARE ALL LOCATED AT THE ENTRIES.

SO YOU'LL SEE IT GOING IN BECAUSE THERE'S LIMITED ENTRIES ON THESE FACILITIES.

WE HAVE TALKED WITH, UM, SEVERAL OF THE, UM, UMPIRES AND THEY TAKE DIRECTION FROM US, SO IF WE WANT IT ENFORCED, THEY'LL OBJECT THE KID.

UM, AND THEN YOU DON'T SEE ANY MORE PROBLEM AFTER THAT.

IT'S ON FOR OUR WHERE GETS AROUND TO A BUBBLEGUM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT.

UH, KURT IS ALSO, UH, YOU WANNA ADDRESS OR SHARE WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED, UM, WITH SOME OF THE LOCAL FIELDS THAT ARE GOING FROM SIDE TO, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE KIDS, YOU KNOW, NOT BEING USED TO PLAYING ON ONE VERSUS THE OTHER.

UM, AND I BELIEVE, UM, COTTONWOOD IS GOING FROM NATURAL GRASS, ARTIFICIAL TURF AND THAT IS A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECT IN ORDER TO DO SO.

SO, UH, AGAIN, AS MENTIONED PILOT POINT IS, UM, UPDATING ALAN GRUFF, UH, SPORTS COMPLEX.

THEY'RE GOING FROM NATURAL GRASS TO ARTIFICIAL TURF.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THE CPLEX AND MELISSA'S ALL ARTIFICIAL TURF.

UM, LITTLE ELM, I THINK IT'S CALLED COTTONWOOD SPORTS PARK.

THEY'RE UM, TRANSITIONING FROM NATURAL GRASS TO ARTIFICIAL TURF.

UM, A LOT OF THE CITIES THAT WE SPOKE TO ARE TRANSITIONING FROM NATURAL GRASS TO ARTIFICIAL TURF.

UM, THE BIG REASON THROUGH ALL THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN, UH, MAINTENANCE AND THEN PLAYABILITY, THE ABILITY TO PLAY AFTER RAIN EVENTS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

UM, SO IT SEEMS THAT EVERY CITY THAT WE SPOKE TO IS MOVING AND TRANSITIONING OVER TO ARTIFICIAL TURF.

UH, THE ONE THAT UM, DID NOT GIVE ME ANY INFORMATION IS DENTON AND NORTH LAKES.

THEY ARE STILL NATURAL GRASS.

UM, I DIDN'T GET MUCH INFORMATION ON WHY THEY'VE STAYED OR KIND OF WHAT THEY PREFER, BUT UH, THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

UM, SO IT'S UM, SALINA'S, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF, MELISSA, LITTLE ELM PILOT POINT.

SO AGAIN, EVERYONE THAT WE SPEAK TO IS EITHER TRANSITIONING ARTIFICIAL TURF OR STAYING WITH IT.

I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THAT.

UM, IF WE GO WITH THE NATURAL GRASS VERSUS ARTIFICIAL TURF, UM, IS IT A BIG PROJECT TO MOVE TO ARTIFICIAL TURF OR IF YOU GO ARTIFICIAL TURF AND WE DON'T LIKE THAT IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE AND WE WANT TO GO BACK TO GRASS.

SO GOING FROM ARTIFICIAL TURF TO NATURAL GRASS IS EASIER.

UM, EVERYTHING'S ALREADY READY TO GO.

YOU JUST RIP OUT YOUR ARTIFICIAL TURF, YOU LAY YOUR NATURAL GRASS IN.

TO GO FROM NATURAL GRASS TO ARTIFICIAL TURF IS A SIGNIFICANT UNDERTAKING.

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MOSTLY DUE TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE.

SO YOU'RE NOT ACCOUNTING FOR ALL THE SUB DRAINAGE, ALL THE GRAVEL UNDERNEATH ALL OF IT.

YOU'RE NOT ACCOUNTING FOR UPSIZED PIPES, YOU'RE NOT ACCOUNTING FOR IT IN YOUR DETENTION POND.

SO MOST OF THESE FACILITIES HAVE BIG PONDS ON SITE.

UM, BASICALLY OUR ARTIFICIAL SUCKS IT UP LIKE A BATHTUB WHILE SOD BASICALLY INFILTRATES INTO THE GROUND.

SO YOUR BASICALLY RUNOFF IS DIFFERENT.

SO YOU HAVE TO MOST LIKELY EXPAND YOUR POND, EXPAND YOUR STORM, AND EXPAND THE FACILITIES IN AND AROUND IT.

YOU CAN ALWAYS FUTURE PROOF IT ON MY SIDE, ON THE CIVIL SIDE IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT THOUGH AND YOU HAVE TO DO SOME REALLY WEIRD STUFF AT THE POND AND THE NATURAL GRASS.

IF WE GO WITH NATURAL GRASS IN THE WINTERTIME WHEN IT'S DORMANT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AFTER TALKING AND DOING SOME RESEARCH THAT PLAYING ON A GRASS FIELD IN THE WINTERTIME WOULD, WOULD REALLY DAMAGE THE GRASS.

YOU DON'T WANT 'EM HAVE PEOPLE PLAYING ON THE FIELDS.

WHEN THE GRASS IS DORMANT, YOU JUST OVERSEE IT.

THAT'S WHAT I DOING.

YOU WHAT? YOU OVERSEE IT WITH PERENNIAL RYE, PUT A WINTER, WINTER GRASS ON IT.

OH.

SO THERE IS OPPORTUNITY THERE TO PLAY ON IT BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS IT'S IN THE WINTERTIME IS YEAH, SHOOT THIS WINTER WHAT WE'VE HAD THREE DAYS OF FREEZING.

I MEAN WE CAN HAVE A LOT OF FUN THIS WINTER.

THE SOCCER FIELDS WILL HAVE TO BE OVER SEATED TOO.

SO THAT'S NOT A BIG CONSIDERATION.

THE BIGGER PROBLEM IS YOU HAVE TO KILL THEIR EYE GRASS OUT IN EARLY MARCH SO THAT THE BERMUDA CAN COME ON STRONGER AND YOU HAVE A WEIRD TRANSITION PERIOD IN THERE THAT MY ONLY CONCERN IS, IS WATERING.

UM, I FEEL THAT TOO.

THAT PROBABLY IS DRIVING SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT RECEIVE SURFACE WATER.

UM, AND AS WE MOVE INTO THAT ERROR, UH, WE WILL SEE IN THE FUTURE WE WILL SEE, UM, RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE IN THE SUMMERTIME.

MAYBE WE CAN ONLY WATER ONE DAY A WEEK AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD SUSTAIN THAT.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA KEEP SPORTS TURF ON ONE DAY A WEEK, SO WE'LL, WE'LL BE STRUGGLING EITHER WAY.

UM, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE RESTRICTIONS ARE.

BUT THE OPPORTUNITY WE'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW THEIR DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN.

SO IT COULD BE, I WOULD ANTICIPATE TWO DAYS A WEEK, BUT IT COULD GET DOWN TO ONE DAY A WEEK, DEPENDING ON THE LITTLE ELM HAS AN ENTIRE WELL SYSTEM DEDICATED FOR IRRIGATION FOR THE PARKS.

UM, THAT WOULD HAVE TO NOT BE PART OF OUR YEAH.

DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM TO BE, IT'S A SEPARATE TOWER, ACTUALLY TWO TOWERS AND UM, IT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE SYSTEM.

FRISCO HAS SOMETHING SIMILAR RECLAIMED WATER.

IT'S A TOTALLY NEW SYSTEM.

BETWEEN PARK FACILITIES IT'S EXPENSIVE.

IT IS LONG RUN, LONG TERM.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WATER RESTRICTIONS.

HAVE SOMEBODY FROM A-A-Y-S-A AND PARK BOARD HERE.

WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A, JUST A, A DEDICATED IRRIGATION.

WELL THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM TO GET AWAY FROM THE, UH, DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN DEPARTMENTS.

DO THEY ALLOW PERMITS TO PUT LIKE AN INDIVIDUAL WELL ON THAT PROPERTY FOR THAT PURPOSE? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ROOM, BUT UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS WITH THE GROUNDWATER DISTRICT.

BUT YES, WE, WE PROBABLY COULD GET AN IRRIGATION.

WELL IF THERE'S ROOM, WE HAVE DONE THAT WITH SEVERAL PARKS, UH, FOR THEIR SPORTS COMPLEXES AND UH, THE COST ON THAT IS ABOUT $750,000 TO GET THE VOLUME OF WATER YOU NEED FOR THE, FOR THE, THE PROJECT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YEAH, THE, THE MAIN LINES ON THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM WILL BE THREE OR FOUR INCH, NOT AN SIX 60 AN INCH THAT YOU'RE ACCUSTOMED TO IN YOUR YARD.

SO WE

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UM, WHAT WOULD Y'ALL PREFER? I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED Y'ALL'S INPUT TOO.

COULD SHE, COULD SHE COME UP? SHE'S ON, I'M ON A TOO.

OH, OKAY.

I DUNNO IF, DO YOU MIND THAT YOU CAN COME UP? YOU CAN COME UP TOO.

BOTH OF YOU IF YOU COULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

FIELD THIS LAST YEAR AND IT IS A LOT OF WORK.

HI, I'M JENNY LYNN PETIN AND I'M THE TREASURER WITH A-A-Y-S-A.

UM, I DO A LOT WITH SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL AND SOCCER.

UM, PARTICULARLY WE WOULD PROBABLY PREFER TURF OVER DIRT.

UM, I'VE DONE A LOT OF THE MAINTENANCE AT THE SOFTBALL

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UM, IT IS REALLY EXPENSIVE.

Y'ALL MENTIONED UM, OUR REGISTRATION COST.

PART OF THAT IS GOING TOWARDS THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE FIELDS, UM, AND GETTING THEM BACK UP TO PAR TO BE PLAYABLE FOR GAMES.

UM, BUT ALSO WE PLAY AT LITTLE ELM AND WE NEVER GET RAINED OUT WHENEVER WE HAVE GAMES THERE.

WE ARE FREQUENTLY GETTING RAINED OUT WHEN WE HAVE TO GO TO CORINTH.

THEY HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES.

WE GET RAINED OUT WHEN WE HAVE TO HAVE GAMES HERE.

UM, TURF IS DEFINITELY THE WAY TO GO AND OUR PARENTS PREFER IT.

SO LET ALONE WHEN THEY DID TURF ON THEIR BASEBALL FIELDS, THEY DID THE MIX.

THE HYBRID, THE INFIELD IS TURF AND THE OUTFIELD IS STILL NATURAL GRASS.

UM, THEIR NEW SOFTBALL COMPLEX IS ALL ARTIFICIAL TURF.

SO YOU STILL HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF SOME RAIN OUT ON BASEBALL FIELD YEAH.

DOWN THERE.

AND I KNOW THEY'RE REDOING THAT DRAINAGE IN THE OUTFIELD TO HELP TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THOSE ISSUES NOW.

BUT, UM, HOW MANY RAIN OUTS ARE THEY HAVING ON THE BASEBALL FIELD? SO NOT AS ASK NOT AS MUCH.

UM, I CAN'T ACTUALLY SAY THE EXACT NUMBER OF RAINOUTS FOR BASEBALL, BUT THEY'RE VERY SLIM.

I DO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH THE TRANSITION FROM THE TURF TO THE OUTFIELD WITH THE KIDS.

UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IT'S NOT AS SAFE IF YOU'RE PLAYING ON ONE, YOU SHOULD PLAY ON ONE AND THEN THE NEXT GAME, IF YOU'RE GOING TO ALL TURF, THAT'S GREAT.

IF IT'S ALL DIRT, THAT'S THE WAY YOU SHOULD GO ALL NATURAL.

UM, IT'S JUST REALLY CONFUSING, ESPECIALLY FOR THE KIDS WHO PLAY MULTIPLE SPOTS.

HMM.

BUT IF THE CONCERN IS WHETHER OR NOT THE KIDS ARE USED TO PLAYING ON TURF VERSUS NATURAL, THEY PLAY BOTH.

UM, SO THE KIDS ARE GETTING BOTH EXPERIENCE.

IT'S MORE JUST A PREFERENCE OF WHAT YOU GUYS WANT AND WHAT THE PARENTS ULTIMATELY WANT.

IT'S, IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT WE WANT, IT'S ABOUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.

IT'S ABOUT WHAT Y'ALL WANT.

WELL I FEEL LIKE THE COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK KINDA LED TOWARDS TURF ALSO.

I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY COMMENTING THAT THEY WANTED THE NATURAL.

UM, BUT WE COULD DO A LITTLE ROUND ROBIN HERE AND SEE KIND OF WHAT EACH OF US PREFERRED.

KIND OF CRYSTAL, WHAT HE PREFERRED.

I WOULD SAY TURF JESSICA.

GOOD.

I WOULD SAY TURF.

I THINK TURF MAKES MORE SENSE.

I WOULD GO WITH TURF.

I LIKE THE FACT THAT THE TRANSITION TO THE HIGH SCHOOL FIELD BEING SIMILAR TO TURF.

I'D BE TURF.

'CAUSE WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON BASEBALL FIELD WITH THE A YA TRYING TO REPAIR 'EM, SO MM-HMM .

TURF FOR ME TOO.

I'M A NATURAL GRASS MARK.

I'VE HAD TO MAINTAIN BOAT SO I, I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS TURF FOR SURE.

UH, I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS GRASS JUST BECAUSE THE HEAT AND THE HEAT HERE IN TEXAS.

YEP.

THAT'S GREAT.

PERFECT.

I SUPPOSE, UM, AND JUST TO KIND OF FURTHER EXPAND ON THAT, THAT WAS PART OF THE SURVEY THAT WE SENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, WE SAW THAT 58% OF THE RESPONSES SHOWED ARTIFICIAL, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF, UH, WITH 23% OF THAT BEING NATURAL GRASS.

UM, NOW THIS IS EVERY RESPONSE.

UM, IF I BREAK THAT OUT AND JUST STRICTLY PULL OUT THE, UH, RESPONSES THAT I IDENTIFIED, BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL, THAT NUMBER ACTUALLY GOES UP TO ABOUT 64 60 5%, UH, FOR THE ARTIFICIAL TURF.

HOW MANY RESPONDENTS DID YOU HAVE? ABOUT 490.

SO A DECENT SAMPLING.

YEAH, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD RESPONSE.

SO IT PULLS IN MOISTURE OUT OF THE AIR AND ON THE DAYS WHERE IT GETS MUCH HOTTER THAN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, IT ACTUALLY RELEASES THAT MOISTURE.

UM, AND SORRY, THERE WAS MENTION OF HEAT, 100% OF VALID, UM, REASON BECAUSE TURF IS HOTTER.

UM, I THINK ON A A HUNDRED DEGREE DAY THAT TURNS OUT TO ABOUT 120 ON THE FIELD, IF NOT HIGHER.

UM, I DID SPEAK WITH A COUPLE OF, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF REPRESENTATIVES.

UM, WITH THE INFILL THAT THEY HAVE NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ALL USED TO SHREDDED TIRES AND RUBBER.

UM, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY TYPE OF INFILL THEY HAVE THESE DAYS.

OBVIOUSLY THE TEXAS RANGERS, THEY HAVE COCONUT SHAVINGS.

UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO A SPECIFIC TYPE OF INFILL, UH, THAT I TALKED ABOUT.

IT WAS, UM, A MOISTURE ABSORBING INFILL.

UM,

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UM, AND THEN DROPS THE DEGREE ON THE FIELD BY 10 TO 15 TO 20 DEGREES.

UM, SO THERE IS DIFFERENT INFILLS OUT THERE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT HEAT ON THE FIELD ITSELF.

SO WE'RE NOT ALWAYS LOOKING AT THE 120.

IS THAT LIKE A BLEEDING EDGE BRAND NEW TECHNOLOGY OR IS THAT A I'M NOT SURE IF IT HERE, IT'S BEEN OUT FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW.

IT'S KIND OF A CORK TYPE PRODUCT.

AND, UM, WE'VE USED IT ONCE AND IT, IT DOES WORK PRETTY WELL.

THE ONLY ISSUE IN A REAL FROG SOAKER RAIN, IT DOES HAVE A TENDENCY TO FLOAT AND SO YOU'VE GOTTA, YOU'VE GOTTA REDISTRIBUTE IT AFTER A REALLY, REALLY, REALLY HEAVY RAIN, BUT IT REALLY EFFECTIVELY TAKES THE HEAT OUT OF THE EQUATION.

ALRIGHT.

I'M A SPORTS OFFICIAL SO I WORK ON BOTH GRASS AND UM, TURF IN THE AREA.

AND THE ONLY TIME I GOT INJURED THIS LAST YEAR WAS ON A FOOTBALL FIELD UP IN COLLINSVILLE, WHICH IS GRASS .

UH, PERSONALLY I LIKE THE NATIONAL TURF.

UM, AND YOU'D SEE ALMOST EVERY FOOTBALL STADIUM OF, OF ANY DECENT SIZE GOING THAT WAY AS WELL.

AND THEY, WE PRACTICE AND DO EVERYTHING IN THE SUMMER.

I KNOW IT'S HOTTER, IT CERTAINLY IS HOTTER ON THE FIELD, BUT, UM, JUST FROM A CONSISTENCY OF PLAY.

BUT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE, WHEN YOU SAY RELEASE MOISTURE, I START SLIDING AROUND AND I SEE BUT GO AHEAD.

I'M DON'T WANNA DERAIL YOUR OTHER NO, YOU'RE THAT, THAT WAS REALLY JUST WHAT I WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON IS, UM, WITH ALL THE NEW INFILLS THESE DAYS, WE CAN KIND OF, UH, COMBAT SOME OF THAT HEAT THAT WE'VE KNOWN TRADITIONALLY IN THE PAST.

SO, UH, IT'S JUST NOT AS NEARLY AS HOT AS IT USED TO BE WHENEVER, YOU KNOW, WE WERE KIDS.

WELL IT SOUNDS LIKE A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE LAYING TOWARDS DIRT BASED OFF OUR RESEARCH.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

THE DIRECTION INTEREST TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONCEPT NUMBER FOUR.

SORRY.

THANK IS THE DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONCEPT NUMBER FOUR.

IS THERE ANY CONCERN WITH THE, THE TWO BIG FIELDS FACED BOTH OF THEM FACING WEST OR LIKE AFTERNOON SUN, UM, GLARE OR YOU KNOW, OR IS IT BETTER BECAUSE THE OUTFIELDERS ARE FACING EAST IN THE AFTERNOON? SO YOU'RE, WHAT'S TOUGH IS IN ANY SPORTS COMPLEX THERE IS GOING TO BE THOSE BASEBALL FIELDS THAT FACE THAT WAY.

UM, IT'S JUST A NATURAL PART OF THE GAME.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE SUNGLASSES AND EYE BLACK THAT HELPS KIND OF COMBAT THAT.

BUT YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT REALLY IN ANY SPORTS COMPLEX.

'CAUSE TYPICALLY YOU'RE GONNA SEE THEM, UH, LAID OUT IN THE WAY WE HAVE IT HERE WHERE YOU'VE GOT FOUR TO FIVE FIELDS ALL KIND OF IN A CIRCLE UHHUH.

SO ONE FIELD IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE FACING INTO THE SUN.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS.

AND OUR PROBLEM IS WE'RE NOT WORKING REALLY WITH A RECTANGLE, WE'RE WORKING MORE OF A TRAVEL ZONE.

SO IT'S A MATTER OF HOW YOU FIT THEM ON THE RIGHT NOW FOR, OBVIOUSLY WE TALKED ABOUT SOCCER AND FOOTBALL FACING EAST AND WEST, THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE COWBOYS STADIUM THAT IS FACING EAST AND WEST.

SO YOU ALWAYS HAVE SUN ISSUES.

UM, THAT'S WHY TRADITIONALLY YOU SEE FOOTBALL AND SOCCER FIELDS FACING MORE SOUTH, UM, JUST TO HELP COMBAT THAT.

BUT WITH BASEBALL IT, IT'S NOT REALLY GONNA MATTER BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA SEE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT ISSUE PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE.

THERE'S A DIRT AROUND .

ALWAYS, ALWAYS PUT THE VISITORS WITH THE SUN IN THEIR FACE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THE SUN DIAGRAM SHIFTS THROUGH THIS AREA, SO IT MIGHT BE REALLY BAD IN THE FALL AND THEN BETTER IN THE WINTER AND SUMMER AND VICE VERSA.

IT'LL, IT'LL CHANGE POSITIONS ON THE WHOLE WEST SIDE ALONG THE INNINGS.

GO FAST.

IT'S FAIR FOR BOTH SIDES.

I MEAN, THEY'RE BOTH GONNA BE LOOKING IN THE SUN, SO.

STRUCTURE, IT'S A HEAD PROTECTION STRUCTURE.

AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TWO AND FOUR IS WHERE DO YOU WANT THE PLAYGROUND? DO YOU WANT IT IN THE MIDDLE OR DO YOU WANT IT NOT IN THE MIDDLE? NO, THAT'S MAKING YOU JUST MAKING SURE IT'S EVERYTHING.

DIFFERENT TIMES.

UM, AND JUST TO TOUCH BASE ON THE PLAYGROUND, UM, AGAIN THROUGH THE SURVEY RESULTS, UM, FILTERING THROUGH SOME OF THE COMMENTS, UM, I DID SEE A MAJORITY OF THEM WANTING THE PLAYGROUND WITHIN THE PARK, UH, WITHIN THE SPORTS COMPLEX, JUST TO BE ABLE TO KEEP AN EYE OUT ON YOUR YOUNGER KIDS WHILE YOUR OLDER KIDS ARE ACTUALLY OUT PLAYING.

THAT WAS THE FEEDBACK THAT I SAW MOSTLY AND SHADE STRUCTURES.

WELL IN THAT SCENARIO, IT'S NOT JUST A SHADE

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YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

MUST WEAR A HELMET TO PLAY OR YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE TO DO A LITTLE MORE SCREENING OF THE PLAYGROUND, BUT, AND UM, THE GOOD THING IS ALL PLAYGROUNDS THESE DAYS ARE BEING BUILT WITH THE SHADE STRUCTURES AUTO, YOU KNOW, AUTOMATICALLY COMING WITH THEM.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF SAFETY, BUT AGAIN, TO CHUCK'S POINT, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, ADEQUATE NETTING AND AND COVERAGE.

WELL THE TWO, THE TWO FIELDS NEXT TO IT MAY NEED A FOUL NET FURTHER DOWN THE, THE WHAT? THE THIRD AND FIRST BASE LINES ON THOSE TWO FIELDS.

AND IS SALINAS, THEIRS GOES OUT PRETTY FAR, DOESN'T IT? THEY'RE THEY'RE NETTING YEAH.

IT BASICALLY TEARS DOWN.

SO IT'S REALLY REALLY TALL.

FIND A HOME PLATE FIRST AND THIRD AND THEN IT DIFFERS DOWN.

SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE NETTING ANYWAY JUST FOR YOUR BASEBALL FIELDS.

NETTING OR CHAIN LINK.

I THINK I WOULD PREFER NETTING.

I'M SURE EVERYONE ELSE MIGHT, BUT MM-HMM .

YOU'D WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU KIND OF RUN THAT DOWN.

YOUR FIRST AND THIRD BASELINES SPECIFICALLY IN THAT AREA.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A NICE WALKING TRAIL AROUND BOTH OF THEM.

AND THIS WILL BE OPEN YEAR.

THIS WILL BE OPEN WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO IN AND USE THE TRACK AND EVERYTHING WITHOUT HAVING TO RESERVE FIELDS AND THINGS.

THAT'S GONNA BE A, A PUBLIC USE.

WELL, I THINK THE SOCCER FIELDS ARE GONNA GET A WHOLE LOT OF USE.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE THAT, THAT JUST PLAY PICK UP SOCCER GAMES.

IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.

I THINK IT, I THINK THE SOCCER FIELDS ARE GONNA BE BUSY.

THEY'RE A LOT BUSIER THAN WE PROBABLY THINK.

WE ARE LEANING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASING OUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

UH, SO THERE WILL BE SOME MANAGEMENT OF THOSE FIELDS SO THAT THERE'S NO, UH, CONFLICT WHEN TWO OR THREE PEOPLE SHOW UP TO PLAY.

UM, AND WE THIS WHO WILL CHOP THE LINES? IS THAT PART OF THE A-A-A-Y-S-A OR IS THAT WHO, WHO WOULD, YOU KNOW, MARK THE FIELDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? IF WE JUST HAVE OPEN SPACES? WE DON'T HAVE ANY AGREEMENT WITH A YSA CURRENTLY.

UH, SO IT'S A CITY FACILITY, SO CURRENTLY THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT.

UM, BUT AS WE CREATE OUR RECREATIONAL DEPARTMENT, WE'LL NEED TO DISCUSS WHETHER WE'LL HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THE LOCAL ASSOCIATION.

I THINK IN PILOT POINT, THEY JUST CHALK IT OFF THE P-P-P-Y-A OR WHATEVER IT IS.

I THINK THEY JUST GO OUT AND, 'CAUSE IT'S JUST OPEN FIELD AND THEY JUST CHALK IT OFF.

THEY DO SOCCER FIELDS.

I WOULD PAINT, I WOULD'VE OUR STAFF PAINT.

MAKE SURE IT'S DONE.

UH, YEAH.

WITH, WITH SOCCER AND FOOTBALL FIELD, SHE, YOU'D WANT TO GO IN AND PAINT.

UM, AND TO YOUR POINT, UM, PILOT POINT DOES, UH, PARTNER WITH P-P-Y-S-A, UM, THE ONLY THING THAT PILOT POINT THE CITY DOES IS THEY'LL GO OUT THERE AND MOW.

UM, BUT ALL OTHER MAINTENANCE ITEMS IS HANDLED BY P-P-Y-S-A AFFECT THE GRASS OR ANYTHING? NO.

THAT MUCH THINKING OF IT.

NO, NO.

IT IS SPECIALLY DESIGNED PAINT.

IT'S LIKE IT'D BE MOW OFF BASED.

HOPEFULLY NOT, BUT .

BUT THERE'S SOME WAYS WE CAN, WE CAN REDUCE SOME STAFF TIME IN HOW WE PAINT.

THERE'S ROBOTIC PAINTERS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF NOW.

SO THERE'S SOME THINGS, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO.

WE CAN DO ROBOT MOWERS AND LET ALONE HAS JUST BOUGHT THREE ROBOT MOWERS SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEND AS MUCH STAFF TIME LIKE A ROOMBA THAT JUST KNOWS IT'S A WHOLE LOT BIGGER.

BUT YEAH.

, I MEAN, WITH IT FROM MY YARD, WE'LL DEFINITELY THEY'RE, THEY'RE ONLY ABOUT $40,000 A PIECE.

THROUGH OUR, UH, BUDGET WORKSHOPS, WE'LL BE BRINGING A LOT OF THIS TO YOU, UH, TO BE PREPARED, UH, TO BE UP AND RUNNING IN TWO YEARS.

SO THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER TOPIC OF, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LEAVE AMPLE GROW TIME BEFORE WE OPEN SOCCER FIELDS UP IF, YEAH.

CURRENTLY OUR SCHEDULE IS TO BE, UM, FULLY DESIGNED AND READY FOR CONSTRUCTION AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.

UM, AND ARE WE LOOKING, DO WE KNOW YET? IS IT A 12 MONTH BUILD OR 18 MONTH BUILD? IT'LL BE AROUND 12 TO 15 MONTHS.

ABOUT 18.

SO, WE'LL, WE'LL NEED TO BE READY TWO YEARS.

WE'LL START WORKING ON, UH, BUDGETING PLAN THE SPRING, BEGINNING OF THE SPRING.

GET THREE, FOUR MONTHS TO GO IN.

OPEN THE SUMMER.

I'M JUST GLAD WE'RE IN A POSITION WE CAN DO THIS.

THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO.

SO I'M KINDA LEANING TOWARDS FOUR.

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ANYBODY ELSE FEEL STRONGLY EITHER DIRECTION? I THINK FOUR'S FINE.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE CENTRALIZED CONCESSION AND STUFF LIKE THAT FOR FOUR.

SO, OKAY.

FOR LANDLORD FOUR.

BUT OUR , I THINK FOR OUR NEEDS FOUR KIND OF IS THE ONE TO GO WITH FOR EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY NEEDS.

WHICH ONE DID YOU SAY? FOUR.

FOUR.

MAYOR, WE HAVE POSTED FOR AN ACTION ITEM.

[4. City Council: Consideration and any necessary action regarding the design concept of a new outdoor sports complex.]

UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE ACTION ON THE CONCEPT PLAN ON THE USE, MULTI-USE AND ON THE TURF.

I NEED A MOTION.

I MAY MOTION WE GO OVER CONCEPT FOUR WITH ARTIFICIAL TURF.

SECOND MOTION.

MY, JEFF SECOND.

MY RANDY ALL IN FAVOR.

PASSES FORWARD TO ZERO.

WAS THAT EVERYTHING THAT WAS NEEDED IN THE MOTION OR, YES SIR.

I BELIEVE THE FOUR CONCEPT ALSO COVERED THE MULTI-USE.

DID WE WANT TO DISCUSS PRACTICE, FACILITIES, PRACTICE, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE PRACTICE FIELDS AT THE NEW DEPART RECENTLY ACQUIRED PROPERTY? YES.

SO THE RECENTLY, UM, ACQUIRED PROPERTY ON 29 31 FOR IT'S STATION FOUR.

CORRECT.

UM, BASED OFF OF THAT, UH, LOT, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FIT IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, UH, BASEBALL AND OR, UH, SOFTBALL PRACTICE FIELDS.

UM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE COULD DO AT LEAST TWO.

UM, AND THEN WE COULD THROW DOWN A GRAVEL PARKING LOT JUST SO WE HAVE ADDITIONAL PRACTICE FIELDS.

UM, SO, OH, WE HAVE IT.

WE TRYING TO PULL IT NOW.

UH, THEY WOULDN'T, THEY WOULDN'T BE LARGE FIELDS.

THEY WOULD BE THE SMALLER FIELDS, BUT, UM, BE IN THESE, THEY CAN BRING IT INTO THE, INTO THIS CENTER.

IT'S ON THE WRONG END.

IT'S ON THE WRONG END, BUT THAT'S ALRIGHT.

WHAT WE HAD ENVISIONED IS THE PRACTICE FIELDS WOULD BE AROUND THAT POND.

WE FENCE OFF THAT POND AND PUT PRACTICE IN AROUND THAT.

HAVE A CON HAVE A, A ROCK PARKING LOT THAT JUST BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, SINCE WE HAVE THIS LARGE FACILITY GOING IN, WE NEED MORE PRACTICE BECAUSE AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THE ISD IS PLANNING TO ELIMINATE THEIR PRACTICE FIELDS THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.

SO WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF PRACTICE.

SO THE WEAR AND TEAR ON THE MAIN FIELDS ARE NOT AS GREAT.

SO WE JUST ACQUIRED 10 ACRES ON FM 29 31.

WE NEED ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE OF THAT FOR, UH, FIRE STATION NUMBER FOUR, UH, TRAINING TOWER, AND POSSIBLY SOME, UH, POLICE FACILITY LATER ON.

AND WHAT, WHAT WE ASK, WHAT WE'RE ASKING WESTWOOD TO DO IS IN THIS AREA HERE, THIS, THIS, THIS AREA IS COMMERCIAL ON THE FRONT, ON THE FRONTAGE OF 29 31.

AND THEN WHAT WE ENVISIONED WAS THE, THE FIELDS COMING AROUND THIS POND, IF WE KEEP THE POND, THE POND IS AN ISSUE.

WE CAN'T ELIMINATE THE POND AND PUSH THE WATER ON OTHER PROPERTY.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING WITH THAT.

BUT THAT WOULD GIVE US A, A PRIME LOCATION RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF OUR, UH, ULTIMATE GROWTH BOUNDARY TO HAVE, UH, TWO TO THREE PRACTICE FIELDS OUT THERE.

UH, EVEN, EVEN IF WE ONLY DO IT UNTIL FIVE TO 10 YEARS AND WE FIND ANOTHER LOCATION TO DO PRACTICE FIELDS, THAT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE A GOOD SPOT FOR US RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S GREAT.

WE, WE DO HAVE A DRAWING.

UH, WE'RE JUST HAVING TROUBLE PULLING IT UP.

WE'LL TRY TO, WE'LL KEEP WORKING.

TRY TO GET IT FOR YOU.

PAPER WE BACK.

SO IF YOU GET THESE, SO THESE ARE JUST PRACTICE FIELDS.

SO THE OTHER FIELDS, THOSE WILL BE PRACTICE SLASH GAME FIELDS UNTIL THIS IS UP AND RUNNING.

THE THE NEW COMPLEX.

THE NEW COMPLEX MM-HMM .

THIS WILL, THIS WILL BE DONE LONG BEFORE THE NEW COMPLEX IS OPEN.

THIS IS OKAY.

BUT THIS WILL BE, WILL THIS BE PROBABLY WHAT WE THINKING TURF OR GRASS WITH THESE, I FIGURED IF IT'S PRACTICE, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE, OURS WAS JUST GRASS, NATURAL GRASS.

'CAUSE IT'LL BE OPEN.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA SPEND MORE MONEY, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

SO THE CONTINGENCY OF THESE ARE RAINED OUT AND THEY STILL NEED TO GET

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PRACTICE DONE.

WILL NOW OTHER FIELDS BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT? DEPENDS ON THE SCHEDULING.

WE WOULD HAVE TO CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN IT RAINED.

AND SEE WHERE WE'RE, I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT'S NOT OFF THE TABLE FOR PRACTICE USE.

I FORESEE THE SPORTS COMPLEX IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE FOR PRACTICE.

FOR PRACTICE.

THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG THING.

BUT THAT, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT'S INCREASING OUR INVENTORY OR PRACTICE USE.

WE HAVE A LOT MORE, UH, AGE GROUP'S ABLE TO PRACTICE AT THE SAME TIME.

WE HAVEN'T FUNDED CONSTRUCTION.

WE, WE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP, UH, THEY GET THE GIST OF WHAT WE WANNA DO.

WE CAN EMAIL IT TO THE COUNCIL AND THE PARKS BOARD LATER AND LET THEM SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE CONCEPT.

THAT WAY WESTWOOD HAS A CHANCE TO KIND OF PUT IT WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE, ON THE DIAGRAM ON THE CONCEPT.

AND WE'LL SEND THAT OUT TO YOU SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

AND LEE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT TI PART, DID IT HAVE ANY KIND OF SPORTS ASPECT TO IT? IT DOES.

I'M GONNA HAVE TO LET KURT HELP ME, BUT WE DO HAVE THAT ON ONE OF OUR SLIDES.

I INCLUDED IT.

UM, WE'LL GET SHANDA TO PULL IT UP SO WE DON'T CONFUSE THE TWO .

TRISHA AND CODY MAY, I REMEMBER SAYING MULTIPLE DRAWINGS ON IT, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER SAW SIX SHANDA.

I HOPE I INCLUDED THE MOST CURRENT THAT THEY'LL YOU PASSED IT.

OH, YOU PASSED IT.

IT'S RIGHT HERE.

RIGHT THERE.

WE CAN INCORPORATE, UM, YEAH, THIS MIGHT BE AN OLDER CONCEPT.

UM, I THINK WE DO HAVE, UM, A COUPLE OF LARGE GREEN SPACES IN OUR MOST CURRENT CONCEPT OF TI PARK.

UM, SO IT'D BE AN OPEN GREEN SPACE WHERE, UM, LIKE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, KIND OF AN OPEN MULTI-PURPOSE, UM, GREEN SPACE AREA.

UM, I THINK WHENEVER WE ORIGINALLY LOOKED AT THE DESIGN, DID WE LOOK AT BASKETBALL IN TENNIS? PICKLEBALL.

TENNIS? YEAH.

SO WE WERE LOOKING AT PICKLEBALL TENNIS.

UM, THERE WOULD BE DISC GOLF THROUGH, UH, THE PROPERTY JUST 'CAUSE THAT CAN GO ANYWHERE.

UM, BUT AS FAR AS LIKE A SPECIFIC PRACTICE FIELD, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR BASEBALL OR SOCCER.

BUT AGAIN, WE DO HAVE A PRETTY LARGE AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED.

WELL, I WOULD THINK ON THIS PART, BASEBALL WOULD BE OUT.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOCCER IF IT WAS ANYTHING.

UH, I'D AGREE.

UH, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'VE GOT, UM, FLOODPLAIN THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY, KIND OF SEPARATING THE MIDDLE PIECE INTO TWO LARGE PIECES.

SO, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S THE WEST SIDE IS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE MORE OF OUR, UM, PARK COMMUNITIES, BATHROOMS, UH, FACILITIES.

UM, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WOULD BE THE OPEN GREEN SPACE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR, YOU KNOW, MULTIPURPOSE GREEN SPACE FIELD.

I ALSO HAVE THE FLOOD PLAIN AREA AT WINDRIDGE.

IF WE, WE COULD DO SOME, A LITTLE BIT OF PRACTICE FACILITY OVER THERE.

LEVELING DIRT WORK AND YEAH.

OUR ISSUES GETTING TO IT.

UH, SO WE WOULD NEED TO WORK WITH THE HOA AND AND WORK ON THAT ON THE TI PARK.

JUST A REMINDER, WE'VE ONLY FUNDED THE DESIGN.

IT'S GONNA BE A VERY EXPENSIVE PROJECT DUE TO THE BRIDGE THAT'S NEEDED TO, TO GET TO IT.

UM, SO WE HAVE TIME TO, TO SEE WHAT, WHAT WE NEED TO ADD THERE.

ARE WE AT MAYBE 30% DESIGN, 30% ON CONCEPT, NOT ON DESIGN.

SO, WELL, I MEAN, WHILE WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS SPORTS COMPLEX, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEAS ON WHAT TO NAME THIS THING? JEFF? IF PERRY PARK ? UH, UH, NO.

I DON'T GET A SECOND ON THAT ONE.

, I MEAN, I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR, WONDERING IF ANYBODY HAD ANY IDEAS OF WE CONTACT, CONTACT A MAJOR CORPORATION AND SELL THE NAMING RIGHTS LIKE THAT.

THERE YOU GO.

ATT AUBREY.

THERE, THERE'S YOUR REVENUE GENERATOR, PILOT POINT BANK PARK, AND THEN YOU HAVE A CONTRACT AND 10 YEARS YOU INCREASE IT.

THAT'S THE AMOUNT.

THAT'S WHERE YOU GET SCOREBOARDS.

, YOU MIGHT LAUGH ABOUT THAT, BUT THE CCL THERE, UH, THEY GOT A MILLION DOLLARS FOR NAMING RIDES FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS AND THEN ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY JUST RE-UPPED IT EVERY FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AND IT'S A SIGNIFICANT FUNDING SOURCE FOR 'EM.

UM, NO, I I I REALLY THINK THAT WE SHOULD, I MEAN, IT'S RIGHT ON 3 77.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN, YOU CAN DO.

YOU NEVER KNOW.

AS LONG AS IT'S NOT A, A DEVELOPER OR BUILDER NAME THAT WE I GONNA DO THAT.

BUT,

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IT'S GONNA BE A SIX LANE HIGHWAY.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A, UH, UH, SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

BUT WHEN YOU COULD DO LIKE, UH, INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE FIELDS, YOU KNOW, OR IF THERE'S SOMEBODY WE WANT TO HONOR OR WHATEVER, BUT LONG TIME COMING LTC PARK, LTC PARK SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN 2012 .

NO OTHER INPUT ON THAT.

DO A SURVEY ON THAT TOO.

MIGHT GET SOME GOOD IDEAS.

NO, ON THE NAVY.

YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION FOR WESTWOOD OR KURT OR BEFORE WE MOVE ON? IS IT ABOUT PARKS IN GENERAL OR IS IT PARKS? JUST, JUST THE, JUST WHAT WE SEE THE COMPLEX THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.

NOPE.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE PRACTICE FIELDS? MM-HMM .

UM, FOR THOSE FIELDS, ARE THEY GONNA BE LIKE WHAT YOU SEE IN LIKE WHAT YOU SEE BEHIND US LIKE THAT? OR ARE THEY GONNA BE LIKE WHAT YOU SEE IN THE HOUSING ADDITIONS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE? WHERE THEY'RE KIND OF JUST LIKE SANDLOT, BUT THERE'S STRUCTURE TO IT.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ONES THAT PV MM-HMM .

IT, IT'LL BE NICE.

WE, WE HAVEN'T, UH, DESIGNED THEM YET.

UH, WE JUST RECENTLY OBTAINED THIS PROPERTY, SO WE WERE WORKING ON IT.

THEY'LL BE NICE.

THEY, THEY WON'T BE IN A DETENTION FUND AND THEY WILL HAVE, WILL HAVE IRRIGATION.

NUMBER FIVE WHERE WE, UH, DISCUSSION REGARDING A SPECIAL MEETING FOR ANNEXATION PUBLIC HEARINGS AND A JOINT MEETING WITH THE MDD CHIEF HEAD.

THESE BEHIND US ARE OBVIOUSLY JUST 'CAUSE WE HAD SOME OPEN SPACE AND SOMEONE HAD PUT UP SOME BACKSTOPS.

UH, THE ONES IN THE ACTUAL PRACTICE FACILITY WILL BE NICER.

UM, I IMAGINE THEY'LL STILL HAVE A SANDLOT FEEL TO THEM JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED AND, UM, BUT THEY WILL BE NICE, THEY'LL BE WELL MAINTAINED.

THEY'LL, THEY'LL WORK AS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.

AND WE PUT THOSE BACKSTOPS UP.

WE WERE HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE .

THAT WAS ALL WE HAD.

ALL RIGHT.

I GUESS WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM

[5. City Council: Discussion regarding setting a special meeting date for annexation public hearings, and a joint meeting with the Municipal Development District Board.]

MAYOR.

MAYOR, COULD WE STAY ON THE GEN, COULD WE STAY ON THE GENERAL PARK DISCUSSION FOR JUST A MOMENT? CHIEF BROOKS HAS SOME INFORMATION FOR YOU.

GOOD MORNING COUNSEL.

AND PART BOARD, JUST TO CATCH Y'ALL UP IN THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR THIS CURRENT BUDGET YEAR, UM, I PROPOSED A POCKET PARK FOR, UH, STATION NUMBER THREE WHERE CRIME VICTIM ADVOCATE IS OFFICED OUT OF.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS PARK WAS TO ALLOW SURVIVORS AND VICTIMS TO HAVE A PLACE TO GO WITHIN THE CITY, UH, TO REFLECT ON WHATEVER HAS HAPPENED.

AND OUR VICTIM ADVOCATE OFFICER OUTTA THAT BUILDING WOULD BE ABLE TO REINFORCE ONGOING, UM, WORK WITH THAT VICTIM AND HAVE A, A PLACE FOR THEM TO GO.

WE SELECTED REFLECTION PARK IS THE NAME, AND THEN I PROVIDED YOU JUST A LITTLE DRAWING.

WE'RE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT CONCEPT PLANS.

SO WE'RE AT THE STAGE WHERE NOW WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO BUILD IT AND THEN PROPOSE BUILDING IT.

AND WE HAVE SOME FUNDS AVAILABLE, AND I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE SMALL DRAWING, BUT AT THE END OF THE PARKING AREA, ALONG THAT FENCE WILL BE A LITTLE SIDEWALK, WHICH WILL TAKE YOU TO A, A LITTLE PARK.

AND IN THIS PARKING IT'LL HAVE FOUR BENCHES AND THEN THE CENTER WILL BE A, A TREE AND THE TREE WILL BE ILLUMINATED AND THEN AROUND IT WILL BE BRICKS THAT EVENTUALLY WE COULD HAVE THOSE BRICKS BE PURCHASED TO REFLECT ON A SURVIVOR OR A VICTIM OF CRIME AND A PLACE FOR THE FAMILY TO GO.

THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY SMALL.

UM, DEFINITELY A POCKET PARK.

UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AND INTRODUCE Y'ALL TO THE CONCEPT OF THIS PARK.

IT WILL HAVE A, A MONUMENT SIGN SMALLER, SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT'S THERE FOR STATION THREE.

UM, SO THAT THEY'LL KNOW THE PARK IS THERE AND WHAT, WHAT THE REASON IS.

AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WE COULD HAVE, UM, MEMORIAL VICTIM DAYS.

THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS COULD GO ON THERE AND RECOGNITION FOR THE VICTIMS WHO SUFFER IN OUR AREA.

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SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

UM, WE'RE AT THE STAGE WHERE WE'LL PROBABLY BE BRINGING IT TO YOU TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT THE COST IS, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO ANY QUESTIONS, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER IT.

MAYBE KINDA OFF, UM, THE SUBJECT, BUT I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT, UM, FOR OUR PARKS AND THIS PARTICULAR PARK, DO WE HAVE OR HAVE WE CONSIDERED TO HAVE LIKE, UH, SECURITY, UH, CAMERAS AND LIGHTING AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT TO MAKE SURE, UM, THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE THAT WE HAVE THAT THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR SPACES? JUST RANDOM.

SORRY.

YES MA'AM.

I KNOW CHIEF COULD TALK TO IT AS WELL.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE STARTED BUILDING THE PARKS AND AD AMENITIES, WE ARE HAVING A LOT OF DAMAGE.

SO IT IS HIGH PRIORITY FOR US TO HAVE THOSE CAMERAS IN PLACE SO THAT CHIEF CAN, UH, DO THE ENFORCEMENT THAT HE NEEDS TO.

SO IT IS STANDARD, WILL BE STANDARD WITH ALL THE NEW ONES COMING.

WE'RE BEGINNING THAT PROCESS AND WE'RE UP AGAINST A, UM, SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE WITH THE, THE PARK HERE AT THIS LOCATION.

UM, WE, WE HAVE THREE CAMERAS APPROVED.

WE HAVE ONE INSTALLED CURRENTLY AND WE'RE WAITING ON THE OTHER TWO THAT THEY CAN'T SEEM TO GET THEM IN, BUT THEY'RE PAN TILT ZOOM CAMERAS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO MANIPULATE IT AND ACTUALLY WATCH WHAT'S GOING ON.

THERE IS NO CAMERA FOR THIS FACILITY, BUT THE, THE POLICE STATION HAS CAMERAS ON IT AND, UH, WE'RE HOPING THAT IT, THEY WON'T BE COMING AND DAMAGING ANYTHING ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PROPERTY .

WE WOULD HOPE THAT WOULD OCCUR, BUT WE DO INTEND TO HAVE, UH, APPROPRIATE SURVEILLANCE JUST LIKE ANY GROWING AREA WHERE AS WE ADD THESE PARKS, A COMPONENT OF THAT WILL BE SECURITY MONITORING.

SO MAYBE A BUNCH OF SIGNS SAYING YOU'RE ON CANDID CAMERA MIGHT KEEP THINGS FROM HAPPENING TOO.

JEFF'S WATCHING.

YEAH, NO, CHIEF BROOKS IS ON IT.

SO, GOOD.

GOOD THING ABOUT THESE CAMERAS HERE IS THE PATROL OFFICERS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THEM FROM THEIR PATROL VEHICLE 24 7, SO THAT'S AWESOME.

ON THE BACK TO THIS ONE, UH, I KNOW WITH THE 29 31 WIDENING TDOT WILL BE PUTTING IN SIDEWALKS ALONG THE ROAD.

HAVE WE CONSIDERED THAT IN OUR SIDEWALKS? YES, WE DID.

UM, THE SIDEWALK USED TO GO STRAIGHT OUT TO AN UNKNOWN SIDEWALK.

OR THAT'S NOT THERE YET.

SO WE PUT IN THIS TEMPORARY ISH SIDEWALK TO GET US THERE NOW AND THEN ONCE 29 30 ONE'S FULLY DONE, WE'LL EVALUATE THAT CONNECTION.

BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY STILL GONNA HAVE TO PARK UP THERE MM-HMM .

AND THEN ACCESS THAT SIDEWALK.

SO JUST DEPENDING UPON HOW IT DOES, WHAT WE'LL PROBABLY END UP REMOVING THE SIDEWALK THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT IN NOW BECAUSE 29 31 IS GONNA BE A LONG TIME COMING.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THEY COULD TIE INTO OURS AND IF WE COULD MAKE OURS THE 10 FOOT WIDE NOW AND THEN THEY COULD TIE IN TO OURS AND USE OURS AS THEIR EXTENSION RATHER THAN WE COULD, WE COULD CERTAINLY TRY THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THOSE, A GRADING ISSUE.

YEAH, THEY'LL COME IN HIGHER OR LOWER AND THEN THE SIDEWALK DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE.

UH, I WAS TRYING TO KEEP FROM HAVING TO SIDEWALK SIDE BY SIDE .

WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE IT REMOVED AT THAT TIME.

WHO, UM, ASSISTED DAVID WALLACE IN KIND OF KICK STARTING THIS WHOLE THING.

WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME PARK, UH, WRONG CHIEF .

I I WAS GONNA SAY I DROVE BY THERE YESTERDAY AND THE FIRETRUCK AND THE POLICE CAR PLAY STRUCTURES ARE IN PLACE PRETTY NICE.

WE BE THURSDAY, FEBRUARY.

YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MOVING ALONG PRETTY WELL.

FUNERAL PARK, THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE EXPECTED TO HAVE THE DOG PARK SIDE, UM, OF THE PARK COMPLETED BY, UH, FEBRUARY 5TH THAT WEEK.

UM, OUR PLAN IS TO ACTUALLY TRY TO DO A GRAND OPENING OF THAT PARK THE WEEK OF THE NINTH.

UM, THAT GENTLEMAN, DAVID WALLACE, WHO HAD ACTUALLY DONATED THE MONEY, UM, HAS PASSED AWAY.

UM, SO, UH, WE HAVE CREATED, UM, A SEPARATE DEDICATION PLAQUE THAT WE'LL BE PUTTING IN THE PARK AS WELL.

UM, SO THE PLAN IS, UH, THE WEEK OF FEBRUARY 9TH, WE'LL DO A GRAND OPENING FOR THE DOG PARK SIDE.

UH, WE'LL INVITE LARRY SMITH OUT.

HE'S THE GENTLEMAN

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UM, SO WE'LL PLAN TO INVITE HIM OUT AND KIND OF SHOW HIM, UM, THE WHOLE DOG PARK SIDE, BUT THEY'RE MAKING VERY GOOD PROGRESS.

UM, SO AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPLETION OF THE DOG PARK, UM, FEBRUARY 5TH.

UM, AND THEN AGAIN TO CHIEF BROOK'S POINT, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING TO FINISH UP THE REST OF THE PARK, UM, HERE AROUND MID-FEBRUARY.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAKING REALLY GOOD MOVEMENT AT THIS TIME.

WE'RE JUST HAVING A PROBLEM GETTING AN IRRIGATION METER SET.

SO ONCE WE GET THAT KNOCKED OUT, IT SHOULD LOOK A LOT BETTER AND SHOULD SAY A LOT MORE MOVEMENT.

YOU WANT TO DISCUSS, UH, POSSIBLE REMAINING NOTES.

UH, MAYOR COUNCIL, OUR ANNEXATIONS HAVE BEEN PUSHED BACK BY OUR, UH, ATTORNEYS.

UH, THERE WERE SOME ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT MARCH BEFORE WE GET THOSE DONE.

SO WE DON'T NEED A SPECIAL MEETING AT THIS TIME FOR THAT.

BUT I DID WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A POSSIBLE, UH, JOINT MEETING WITH THE MDD AND SEE, UH, IF YOU HAVE SOME DATES IN MIND OR IF CHRISTINE HAS HEARD ANYTHING FROM HER BOARD ON A POSSIBLE DATE FOR A JOINT MEETING, JUST TO GET A, IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR SINCE YOU MET TOGETHER WITH THE MDD AND KIND OF GET SOME IDEAS.

THEY HAVE PURCHASED SOME PROPERTY, GET YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE WITH THAT PROPERTY AND WHAT THEIR FUTURE IS FOR THIS YEAR.

UH, SO IF YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS ABOUT A TIMEFRAME YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT OR A DAY, EVERYBODY GOOD WITH SATURDAY? I LIKE SATURDAYS FOR WORKSHOP STUFF.

I, WE DID TALK ABOUT POSSIBLY OUR .

I DID DISCUSS IT WITH OUR BOARD PRESIDENT AND SHE FELT LIKE OUR TWO, OUR USUAL TUESDAY MEETING BEFORE THE FEBRUARY 10TH MEETING, UM, WOULD WORK.

SATURDAYS MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR SOME OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS.

THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF YOUNGER CHILDREN INVOLVED IN SPORTS AND ACTIVITIES, SO IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT FOR SOME OF THEM TO GET THERE.

BUT, UM, IF A TUESDAY NIGHT WORKS, SHE'S GOOD WITH THAT.

FEBRUARY 10TH FOR ANOTHER.

SO A REGULAR MEETING AT THE NDD? YES.

HAVE A 30 TO 45 1 HOUR WORKSHOP.